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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>,
	Chris Worley <worleys@gmail.com>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>,
	david@lang.hm, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>,
	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:56:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1250517372.3844.3.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090816165943.GA26983@infradead.org>

On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 12:59 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:52:07AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > However, the enterprise has been doing UNMAP for a while, so we can draw
> > inferences from them since the SSD FTL will operate similarly.  For
> > them, UNMAP is the same cost in terms of time regardless of the number
> > of extents.  The reason is that it's moving the blocks from the global
> > in use list to the global free list.  Part of the problem is that this
> > involves locking and quiescing, so UNMAP ends up being quite expensive
> > to the array but constant in terms of cost (hence they want as few
> > unmaps for as many sectors as possible).
> 
> How are they doing the unmaps?  Using something similar to Mark's wiper
> script and using SG_IO?  Because right now we do not actually implement
> UNMAP support in the kernel.  I'd really love to test the XFS batched
> discard support with a real UNMAP implementation.

You mean how is the array vendor testing their implementation?  Using
SG_IO ... without any filesystem, I believe.

The testing was initially done to see if the initial maximal discard
proposal from LSF09 was a viable approach (which it wasn't given the
time taken to UNMAP).

James


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-17 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-12 14:37 [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed Nitin Gupta
2009-08-12 22:48 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-13  2:30   ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13  6:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-13 14:44       ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13 17:45     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-13  2:41   ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13  5:05     ` compcache as a pre-swap area (was: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Al Boldi
2009-08-13 17:31       ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-14  4:02         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-14  4:53           ` compcache as a pre-swap area Nitin Gupta
2009-08-14 15:49             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-15 11:00               ` Al Boldi
2009-08-13 15:13   ` Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-13 15:17     ` david
2009-08-13 15:26       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-13 15:43     ` James Bottomley
2009-08-13 18:22       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-13 16:13     ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13 16:26     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2009-08-13 16:33       ` david
2009-08-13 18:15         ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-13 19:18           ` James Bottomley
2009-08-13 20:31             ` Richard Sharpe
2009-08-14 22:03             ` Mark Lord
2009-08-14 22:54               ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-15 13:12                 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-13 20:44           ` david
2009-08-13 20:54             ` Bryan Donlan
2009-08-14 22:10               ` Mark Lord
2009-08-14 23:21                 ` Chris Worley
2009-08-14 23:45                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-15  0:19                     ` Chris Worley
2009-08-15  0:30                       ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-15  0:38                         ` Chris Worley
2009-08-15  1:55                           ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-15 13:20                           ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 22:52                             ` Chris Worley
2009-08-17  2:03                               ` Mark Lord
2009-08-15 12:59                       ` James Bottomley
2009-08-15 13:22                         ` Mark Lord
2009-08-15 13:55                           ` James Bottomley
2009-08-15 17:39                             ` jim owens
2009-08-16 17:08                               ` Robert Hancock
2009-08-16 14:05                             ` Alan Cox
2009-08-16 14:16                               ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 15:34                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-16 15:44                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-16 17:28                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 17:37                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-08-17 16:30                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2009-08-17 16:56                                         ` jim owens
2009-08-17 17:14                                           ` Bill Davidsen
2009-08-17 17:37                                             ` jim owens
2009-08-16 17:37                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 15:52                                 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-16 16:32                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 18:07                                     ` James Bottomley
2009-08-16 18:19                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 18:24                                         ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 16:37                                           ` Bill Davidsen
2009-08-17 17:08                                             ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-17 17:19                                               ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 18:16                                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-17 18:21                                                 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-17 19:18                                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 20:19                                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-08-17 20:28                                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 20:28                                               ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 16:59                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-17  4:24                                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2009-08-17 13:56                                     ` James Bottomley [this message]
2009-08-17 14:10                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-17 19:12                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-17 19:24                                           ` James Bottomley
2009-08-16 21:50                                   ` Discard support Roland Dreier
2009-08-16 22:06                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-08-16 22:13                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-16 22:51                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 19:29                                 ` Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Alan Cox
2009-08-16 23:05                                   ` John Robinson
2009-08-17  2:05                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-08-13 21:28             ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-13 22:20               ` Richard Sharpe
2009-08-14  0:19                 ` Greg Freemyer
     [not found]                   ` <46b8a8850908131758s781b07f6v2729483c0e50ae7a@mail.gmail.com>
2009-08-14 21:33                     ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-14 21:56                       ` Discard support Roland Dreier
2009-08-14 22:10                         ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-13 17:19     ` Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Hugh Dickins
2009-08-13 18:08     ` Douglas Gilbert

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