From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disable preemption in apply_to_pte_range
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:56:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1234605361.4698.23.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4995ACD5.9000201@goop.org>
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 09:24 -0800, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> The specific rules are that
> >> arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode()/arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode() require you to be
> >> holding the appropriate pte locks for the ptes you're updating, so
> >> preemption is naturally disabled in that case.
> >>
> >
> > Right, except on -rt where the pte lock is a mutex.
> >
>
> Hm, that's interesting. The requirement isn't really "no preemption",
> its "must not migrate to another cpu". Is there a better way to express
> that?
Not really, in the past something like migrate_disable() has been
proposed, however that's problematic in that it can generate latencies
that are _very_ hard to track down, so we've always resisted that and
found other ways.
> >> This all goes a bit strange with init_mm's non-requirement for taking
> >> pte locks. The caller has to arrange for some kind of serialization on
> >> updating the range in question, and that could be a mutex. Explicitly
> >> disabling preemption in enter_lazy_mmu_mode would make sense for this
> >> case, but it would be redundant for the common case of batched updates
> >> to usermode ptes.
> >>
> >
> > I really utterly hate how you just plonk preempt_disable() in there
> > unconditionally and without very clear comments on how and why.
> >
>
> Well, there's the commit comment. They're important, right? That's why
> we spend time writing good commit comments? So they get read? ;)
Andrew taught me that indeed, but still when looking at the code its
good to have some text there explaining things too.
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2009-02-13 0:55 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-13 1:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-13 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-13 13:30 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-13 14:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-13 14:30 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-13 14:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-13 17:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-14 9:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-13 17:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-14 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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