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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disable preemption in apply_to_pte_range
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:48:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1234525710.6519.17.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4994CF35.60507@goop.org>

On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 17:39 -0800, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:

> In general the model for lazy updates is that you're batching the 
> updates in some queue somewhere, which is almost certainly a piece of 
> percpu state being maintained by someone.  Its therefore broken and/or 
> meaningless to have the code making the updates wandering between cpus 
> for the duration of the lazy updates.
> 
> > If so, should we do the preempt_disable/enable within those functions? 
> > Probably not worth the cost, I guess.
> 
> The specific rules are that 
> arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode()/arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode() require you to be 
> holding the appropriate pte locks for the ptes you're updating, so 
> preemption is naturally disabled in that case.

Right, except on -rt where the pte lock is a mutex.

> This all goes a bit strange with init_mm's non-requirement for taking 
> pte locks.  The caller has to arrange for some kind of serialization on 
> updating the range in question, and that could be a mutex.  Explicitly 
> disabling preemption in enter_lazy_mmu_mode would make sense for this 
> case, but it would be redundant for the common case of batched updates 
> to usermode ptes.

I really utterly hate how you just plonk preempt_disable() in there
unconditionally and without very clear comments on how and why.

I'd rather we'd fix up the init_mm to also have a pte lock.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-13 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4994BCF0.30005@goop.org>
     [not found] ` <4994C052.9060907@goop.org>
2009-02-13  0:55   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-13  1:39     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-13 11:48       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-02-13 13:30         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-13 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-13 14:30             ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-13 14:38               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-13 17:41                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-14  9:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-13 17:24         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-14  9:56           ` Peter Zijlstra

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