From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
pavel@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.osdl.org,
Matt Tolentino <matthew.e.tolentino@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hibernation should work ok with memory hotplug
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:21:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1225747308.12673.486.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081103125108.46d0639e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
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On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 12:51 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:25:00 +0100
> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 29 of October 2008, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > >
> > > hibernation + memory hotplug was disabled in kconfig because we could
> > > not handle hibernation + sparse mem at some point. It seems to work
> > > now, so I guess we can enable it.
> >
> > OK, if "it seems to work now" means that it has been tested and confirmed to
> > work, no objection from me.
>
> yes, that was not a terribly confidence-inspiring commit message.
>
> 3947be1969a9ce455ec30f60ef51efb10e4323d1 said "For now, disable memory
> hotplug when swsusp is enabled. There's a lot of churn there right
> now. We'll fix it up properly once it calms down." which is also
> rather rubbery.
>
> Cough up, guys: what was the issue with memory hotplug and swsusp, and
> is it indeed now fixed?
I suck. That commit message was horrid and I'm racking my brain now to
remember what I meant. Don't end up like me, kids.
I've attached the message that I sent to the swsusp folks. I never got
a reply from that as far as I can tell.
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=1118682535.22631.22.camel%40localhost&forum_name=lhms-devel
As I look at it now, it hasn't improved much since 2005. Take a look at
kernel/power/snapshot.c::copy_data_pages(). It still assumes that the
list of zones that a system has is static. Memory hotplug needs to be
excluded while that operation is going on.
page_is_saveable() checks for pfn_valid(). But, with memory hotplug,
things can become invalid at any time since no references are held or
taken on the page. Or, a page that *was* invalid may become valid and
get missed.
The "missing a page" thing is probably correctable via the
zone_span_seqbegin() locks. The "page becoming invalid" thing is
probably mostly fixable by acquiring a reference to the page itself.
I'd need to look how the locking on the hot remove side is working these
days to be much more constructive than that.
-- Dave
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From: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
To: swsusp@lister.fornax.hu
Cc: lhms <lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: memory hotplug and software suspend
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:08:55 -0700
Message-ID: <1118682535.22631.22.camel@localhost>
Software suspend folks,
We're getting ready to submit memory hot-addition to the mainline
kernel. The patches that we currently have work with everything, except
for the software suspend code currently in the kernel.
The issue is that, during a swsusp operation, a hardware memory hotplug
operation may occur. For now, let's think about memory addition, and
ignore removal.
For example, let's look at copy_data_pages():
for_each_zone(zone) {
...
for (zone_pfn = 0; zone_pfn < zone->spanned_pages; ++zone_pfn) {
In theory, while this loop is going on, a zone might be added, or a
zone's range might be expanded, making zone_pfn not start at the
beginning of a zone. I think that can be fixed by using a new seqlock
that I plan to submit:
http://www.sr71.net/patches/2.6.12/2.6.12-rc5-mhp1/broken-out/C6-zone-span_seqlock.patch
and holding the new pgdat->size_lock around the call to the saveable()
function, to keep the pfn_valid().
http://www.sr71.net/patches/2.6.12/2.6.12-rc5-mhp1/broken-out/C5.2-pgdat_size_lock.patch
So, I have a couple of questions about swsusp. Is the current code in
2.6.12-rc6 going to be around for a while? If not, does anyone have a
problem with me making MEMORY_HOTPLUG depend on !SOFTWARE_SUSPEND for a
bit, until everything settles out, and we can fix them to work together
later?
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-03 21:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20081029105956.GA16347@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
[not found] ` <200810291325.01481.rjw@sisk.pl>
2008-11-03 20:51 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 21:18 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-03 21:21 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2008-11-03 22:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-03 22:34 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 23:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-03 23:10 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 0:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 0:52 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 23:39 ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-11-04 4:02 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-04 7:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 7:36 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 8:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 15:21 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 15:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 15:39 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 16:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 16:59 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-05 0:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05 11:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-06 0:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 0:28 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-06 0:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 2:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06 2:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 14:47 ` Alan Stern
2008-11-07 1:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 8:47 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-06 1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 1:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06 1:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 1:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 2:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06 2:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 3:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 3:28 ` Yasunori Goto
2008-11-06 6:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 14:48 ` Alan Stern
2008-11-06 20:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06 9:12 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-06 9:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 9:26 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06 14:43 ` Alan Stern
2008-11-04 7:09 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 7:30 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-04 7:53 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-05 9:10 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-05 10:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-05 16:23 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-06 12:28 ` Pavel Machek
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