From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
jeremy@goop.org, arnd@arndb.de,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:34:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1223559246.11830.23.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081009131701.GA21112@elte.hu>
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:17 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:46 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > i'm wondering about the following productization aspect: it would be
> > > very useful to applications and users if they knew whether it is safe to
> > > checkpoint a given app. I.e. whether that app has any state that cannot
> > > be stored/restored yet.
> >
> > Absolutely!
> >
> > My first inclination was to do this at checkpoint time: detect and
> > tell users why an app or container can't actually be checkpointed.
> > But, if I get you right, you're talking about something that happens
> > more during the runtime of the app than during the checkpoint. This
> > sounds like a wonderful approach to me, and much better than what I
> > was thinking of.
> >
> > What kind of mechanism do you have in mind?
> >
> > int sys_remap_file_pages(...)
> > {
> > ...
> > oh_crap_we_dont_support_this_yet(current);
> > }
> >
> > Then the oh_crap..() function sets a task flag or something?
>
> yeah, something like that. A key aspect of it is that is has to be very
> low-key on the source code level - we dont want to sprinkle the kernel
> with anything ugly. Perhaps something pretty explicit:
>
> current->flags |= PF_NOCR;
Am I miscounting, or are we out of these suckers on 32-bit platforms?
> as we do the same thing today for certain facilities:
>
> current->flags |= PF_NOFREEZE;
>
> you probably want to hide it behind:
>
> set_current_nocr();
Yeah, that all looks reasonable. Letting this be a dynamic thing where
you can move back and forth between the two states would make a lot of
sense too. But, for now, I guess it can be a one-way trip.
I'll cook something up real fast.
-- Dave
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-08 10:19 Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 3/9] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 10:21 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 10:24 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 4/9] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 5/9] Restore " Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 15:35 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 6/9] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 8/9] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 9/9] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 12:46 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 12:58 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:34 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2008-10-09 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 16:50 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-13 8:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-13 16:12 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-15 15:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 23:59 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-13 16:43 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-15 15:15 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-16 0:06 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 12:35 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-16 13:49 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 22:51 ` Peter Chubb
2008-10-17 6:30 ` David Newall
2008-10-20 17:17 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 6:44 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-17 7:08 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 21:59 ` Greg Kurz
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