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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] discarding swap
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:09:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1221228567.3919.35.camel@macbook.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809121154430.12812@blonde.site>

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:10 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> So long as the I/O schedulers guarantee that a WRITE bio submitted
> to an area already covered by a DISCARD_NOBARRIER bio cannot pass that
> DISCARD_NOBARRIER - ...

> That seems a reasonable guarantee to me, and perhaps it's trivially
> obvious to those who know their I/O schedulers; but I don't, so I'd
> like to hear such assurance given.

No, that's the point. the I/O schedulers _don't_ give you that guarantee
at all. They can treat DISCARD_NOBARRIER just like a write. That's all
it is, really -- a special kind of WRITE request without any data.

But -- and this came as a bit of a shock to me -- they don't guarantee
that writes don't cross writes on their queue. If you issue two WRITE
requests to the same sector, you have to make sure for _yourself_ that
there is some kind of barrier between them to keep them in the right
order.

Does swap do that, when a page on the disk is deallocated and then used
for something else?

-- 
David Woodhouse                            Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com                              Intel Corporation

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-12 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-09 21:28 Hugh Dickins
2008-09-10 17:35 ` Jens Axboe
2008-09-10 19:51   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-10 21:28     ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-12 12:10       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-12 14:09         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2008-09-12 15:52           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-12 16:22             ` David Woodhouse
2008-09-12 17:46               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-12 16:50             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-12 17:25               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-11  8:58     ` Jens Axboe
2008-09-11 10:47       ` Hugh Dickins

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