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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, ak@suse.de,
	mtk-manpages@gmx.net, solo@google.com, eric.whitney@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 3/5] Mem Policy:  MPOL_PREFERRED fixups for "local allocation"
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:51:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1189691488.5013.36.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709121507170.3835@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:10 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> 
> > > >  	case MPOL_PREFERRED:
> > > > -		/* or use current node instead of memory_map? */
> > > > +		/*
> > > > +		 * for "local policy", return allowed memories
> > > > +		 */
> > > >  		if (p->v.preferred_node < 0)
> > > > -			*nodes = node_states[N_HIGH_MEMORY];
> > > > +			*nodes = cpuset_current_mems_allowed;
> > > 
> > > Is this change intentional? It looks like something that belongs as part
> > > of the the memoryless patch set.
> > > 
> > 
> > Absolutely intentional.  The use of 'node_states[N_HIGH_MEMORY]' was
> > added by the memoryless nodes patches.  Formerly, this was
> > 'node_online_map'.  However, even this results in misleading info for
> > tasks running in a cpuset.  
> 
> Sort of. This just means that the policy does not restrict the valid 
> nodes. The cpuset does. I think this is okay but we may be confusing users 
> as to which mechanism performs the restriction.
>  
> > It's a fine, point, but I think this is "more correct" that the existing
> > code.  I'm hoping that this change, with a corresponding man page update
> > will head off some head scratching and support calls down the road.
> 
> How does this sync with the nodemasks used by other policies? So far we 
> are using a sort of cpuset agnostic nodeset and limit it when it is 
> applied. 

Not exactly:  set_mempolicy() calls "contextualize_policy()" that
returns an error if the nodemask is not a subset of mems_allowed; and
then calls mpol_check_policy() to further vet the syscall args.

Now, I see that sys_mbind() does just AND the nodemask with
mems_allowed.  So, it won't give an error.

Should these be the same?  If so, which way:  error or silently mask off
dis-allowed nodes?  The latter doesn't let the user know what's going
on, but with my new MPOL_F_MEMS_ALLOWED flag, a user can query the
allowed nodes.  And, I can update the man pages to state exactly what
happens.  So, how about:

1) changing contextualize_policy() to mask off dis-allowed nodes rather
than giving an error  [this is a change in behavior for
set_mempolicy()], and

2) changing mbind() to use contextualize_policy() like
set_mempolicy()--no change in behavior here.

Thoughts?

> I think the integration between cpuset and memory policies could 
> use some work and this is certainly something valid to do. Is there any 
> way to describe that and have output that clarifies that distinction and 
> helps the user figure out what is going on?

Man pages can/will be updated and the ability to query allowed nodes
should provide the necessary info.  Would this satisfy your concern?

Lee

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-13 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-30 18:50 [PATCH/RFC 0/5] Memory Policy Cleanups and Enhancements Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-30 18:51 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/5] Mem Policy: fix reference counting Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-11 18:48   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-11 18:12     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13  9:45       ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-30 18:51 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/5] Mem Policy: Use MPOL_PREFERRED for system-wide default policy Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-11 18:54   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-11 18:22     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13  9:48       ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-30 18:51 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/5] Mem Policy: MPOL_PREFERRED fixups for "local allocation" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-11 18:58   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-11 18:34     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-12 22:10       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 13:51         ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2007-09-13 18:18           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13  9:55       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-12 22:06   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 13:35     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13 18:21       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-30 18:51 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/5] Mem Policy: cpuset-independent interleave policy Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-12 21:20   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12 22:14     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 13:26     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13 17:17       ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-12 21:59   ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-13 13:32     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13 17:19       ` Ethan Solomita
2007-09-13 18:20       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-09  6:15       ` Ethan Solomita
2007-10-09 13:39         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-09 18:49         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-09 19:02           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-30 18:51 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/5] Mem Policy: add MPOL_F_MEMS_ALLOWED get_mempolicy() flag Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-11 19:07   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-11 18:42     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-12 22:14   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 20:24   ` [PATCH] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:27     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-11 16:20 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/5] Memory Policy Cleanups and Enhancements Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-11 19:12   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-11 18:45     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-12 22:17   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 13:57     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13 15:31       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-13 15:01         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13 18:55           ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-13 18:19       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 18:23         ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-13 18:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 21:17             ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-14  2:20               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14  8:53               ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 15:06                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 17:46                   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 18:41                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-16 18:02                       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 18:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 18:19                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 20:14                             ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 19:16                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 20:03                           ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 20:15                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-16 18:05                   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-16 19:34                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-16 21:22                       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 13:29                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:14                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-13 15:49     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-13 18:22       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 19:00 ` [PATCH] Fix NUMA Memory Policy Reference Counting Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:14   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 19:38     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:43       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 22:03         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-19 22:23           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 10:36   ` Mel Gorman

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