From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water marks
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:59:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1187873988.6114.388.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070823120819.GO13915@v2.random>
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 14:08 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 12:09:03AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Strictly speaking:
> >
> > if:
> >
> > page = alloc_page(gfp);
> >
> > fails but:
> >
> > obj = kmem_cache_alloc(s, gfp);
> >
> > succeeds then its a bug.
>
> Why? this is like saying that if alloc_pages(order=1) fails but
> alloc_pages(order=0) succeeds then it's a bug. Obviously it's not a
> bug.
>
> The only bug is if slab allocations <=4k fails despite
> alloc_pages(order=0) would succeed.
That would be currently true. However I need it to be stricter.
I'm wanting to do networked swap. And in order to be able to receive
writeout completions when in the PF_MEMALLOC region I need to introduce
a new network state. This is because it needs to operate in a steady
state with limited (bounded) memory use.
Normal network either consumes memory, or fails to receive anything at
all.
So this new network state will allocate space for a packet, receive the
packet from the NIC, inspect the packet, and toss the packet when its
not found to be aimed at the VM (ie. does not contain a writeout
completion).
So the total memory consumption of this state is 0 - it always frees
what it takes, but the memory use is non 0 but bounded - it does
temporarily use memory, but will limit itself to never exceed a given
maximum)
Because the network stack runs on the slab allocator in generic (both
kmem_cache and kmalloc) I need this extra guarantee so that a slab
allocated from the reserves will not serve objects to some random
non-critical application.
If this is not restricted this network state can leak memory to outside
of PF_MEMALLOC and will not be stable.
So what I need is:
kmem_cache_alloc(s, gfp) to fail when alloc_page(gfp) fails
agreeing on the extra condition:
when kmem_cache_size(s) <= PAGE_SIZE
and the extra note that:
I only really need it to fail for ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS, the other
levels like ALLOC_HIGH and ALLOC_HARDER are not critical.
Which ends up with:
if the current gfp-context does not allow ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS
allocations, and alloc_page() fails, so must kmem_cache_alloc(s,) if
kmem_cache_size(s) <= PAGE_SIZE.
(yes this leaves jumbo frames broken)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-23 12:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-20 21:50 Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 1/7] release_lru_pages(): Generic release of pages to the LRU Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 14:52 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 2/7] Move checks from pageout() to shrink_page_list Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 3/7] shrink_page_list: Support isolating dirty pages on laundry list Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:04 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 4/7] Pass laundry through shrink_inactive_list() and shrink_zone() Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 5/7] Laundry handling for direct reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 21:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 6/7] kswapd: Do laundry after reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 7/7] Switch of PF_MEMALLOC during writeout Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 23:08 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 23:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 1:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 10:36 ` [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water marks Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 20:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 21:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:43 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 22:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 12:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-23 20:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 22:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 22:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-22 7:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-22 19:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-22 20:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-22 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 7:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-26 4:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-23 12:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-22 7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-22 19:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 12:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-23 12:59 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-08-21 15:16 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 20:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 21:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:51 ` Dave McCracken
2007-08-21 21:03 ` Christoph Lameter
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