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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	anton@samba.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] populated_map: fix !NUMA case, remove comment
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:07:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1181840872.5410.159.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706140913530.29612@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 09:15 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> 
> > > The point of all this is that, as you've pointed out, the original
> > > NUMA and memory policy designs assumed a fairly symmetric system
> > > configuration with all nodes populated with [similar amounts?] of
> > > roughly equivalent memory.  That probably describes a majority of NUMA
> > > systems, so the system should handle this well, as a default.  We
> > > still need to be able to handle the less symmetric configs--with boot
> > > parameters, sysctls, cpusets, ...--that specify non-default behavior,
> > > and cause the generic code to do the right thing.  Certainly, the
> > > generic code can't "fall over and die" in the presence of memoryless
> > > nodes or other "interesting" configurations.
> > 
> > Agreed,
> > Nish
> 
> The generic code currently does not fail. It (slab allocators etc) simply 
> gets memory that it thinks comes from a memoryless node but it came from a 
> neighboring node.
> 

If it (slab allocators etc) wants and/or can use memory from a different
node from what it requested, then, it shouldn't be calling with
GFP_THISNODE, right?  I mean what's the point?  If GFP_THISNODE never
returned off-node memory, then one couldn't use it without checking for
and dealing with failure.  And, 'THISNODE allocations CAN fail, when the
first zone in the selected zonelist is empty and subsequent zones are
off-node.  __alloc_pages() et al WILL fail this case and return NULL, so
callers must be prepared to deal with it--even [especially?] early boot
code, IMO, anyway.

Again, I'll try your latest stack with Nish's patches and see what
happens.

Lee




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Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-11 20:27 [PATCH] Add populated_map to account for memoryless nodes Nishanth Aravamudan, Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 21:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:10   ` [PATCH v2] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 22:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:52       ` [PATCH v3] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:00         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:41           ` [PATCH v4] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:45             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:07               ` [PATCH] populated_map: fix !NUMA case, remove comment Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:41                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:43                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  1:45                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:52                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:39                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:02                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:20                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:32                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:20                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:21                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:31                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 15:06                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:28                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:43                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:48                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 18:51                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:44                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:48                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:01                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:30                                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 17:58                                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:21                                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:01                                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:51                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 15:50                                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 15:57                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 16:54                                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 16:09                                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 16:15                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 17:07                                                           ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2007-06-14 17:16                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 18:04                                                               ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 22:35                                                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:50                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:09                                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:12                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:18                                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:26                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:56                                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 14:23                                                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 22:49                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:55                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:41                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:07                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:13                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:08         ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:10           ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:11             ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:13               ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:40                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:19                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:43                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:19                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:22                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:34                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:38               ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:17             ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:15               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:47                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:12                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:21                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:25                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:34                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:55                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:17                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:19                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:30                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:48                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  5:07                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:47                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:43                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:49                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:33                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:44                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  3:50                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:53                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  3:53                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  4:14                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  5:09                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  5:15                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12 17:36                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:50                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:45                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:13                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-13  0:04                           ` [PATCH v7][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:26                             ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:28                               ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:23                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:19                                   ` [PATCH v4][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 20:05                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 20:29                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 21:02                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-23 19:23                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-23 20:14                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:04                             ` [PATCH v7][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:50                               ` [PATCH v7][UPDATE][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:28               ` [PATCH v6][RFC] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 23:15           ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:14             ` [PATCH v2][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:42               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:57               ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12  1:12                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:41                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  1:52                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12  2:03                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:19       ` [PATCH v2] Add populated_map to account for " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:32         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:45         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:17           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:22             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:49               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:51                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:03                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:52                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:06                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 14:10   ` [PATCH] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:35     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:39       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:54         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:00           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-06-12  2:46   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:53   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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