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From: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	anton@samba.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add populated_map to account for memoryless nodes
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:54:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1181674482.5592.98.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706121138050.30754@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:39 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> 
> > > Mea culpa.  Our platforms have a [pseudo-]node with just O(1G) memory
> > > all in zone DMA.  That node can't look populated for allocating huge
> > > pages.
> > 
> > Because you don't want to use up any of the DMA pages, right? That seems
> > *very* platform specific. And it doesn't seem right to make common code
> > more complicated for one platform. Maybe there isn't a better solution,
> > but I'd like to mull it over.
> 
> Right. Please Lee be generic and avoid the exceptional cases.

I was trying to be generic.  But it broke for the exceptional case of an
x86_64 with all/mostly DMA32 in one node and higher zone memory in other
nodes.  

> 
> > > Maybe we can just exclude zone DMA from the populated map?
> > 
> > Maybe I don't know enough about NUMA and such, but I'm not sure I
> > understand how this would make it a populated map anymore?
> > 
> > Maybe we need two maps, really?
> 
> No need. If you want to exclude a node from huge pages then you need 
> to use the patch that allows per node huge page specifications and set 
> the number of huge pages for that node to zero.


Perhaps.  But, be aware that allocating pages via the 'hugepages' boot
parameter or the vm.nr_hugepages sysctl won't spread pages evenly--on
our platforms, anyway--if we don't get this right.  From what I've seen
in the mailing lists, this approach [fixing it up with the per node
attributes] runs counter to the general approach of having the kernel
figure it out.  

So, I'll wait for this to settle down.  Then I'll see how it works on
our platforms and propose whatever generic fixes I can to make it work.

Lee

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Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-11 20:27 Nishanth Aravamudan, Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 21:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:10   ` [PATCH v2] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 22:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 22:52       ` [PATCH v3] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:00         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:41           ` [PATCH v4] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:45             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:07               ` [PATCH] populated_map: fix !NUMA case, remove comment Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:41                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:43                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  1:45                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:52                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:39                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:02                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:20                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:32                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:20                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:21                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:31                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 15:06                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:28                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:43                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:48                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 18:51                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:44                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:48                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:01                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:30                                             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 17:58                                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:21                                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:01                                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:51                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 15:50                                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 15:57                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 16:54                                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 16:09                                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 16:15                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 17:07                                                           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 17:16                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-14 18:04                                                               ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-14 22:35                                                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 22:50                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:09                                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:12                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:18                                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 23:26                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-13 23:56                                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-14 14:23                                                   ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 22:49                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:55                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:41                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:07                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:13                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:08         ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:10           ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:11             ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:13               ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:40                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:19                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:43                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:19                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:22                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:34                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-11 23:38               ` [PATCH][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Christoph Lameter
2007-06-11 23:17             ` [PATCH v6][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:15               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:47                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:12                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:21                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:25                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:34                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:55                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:17                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:19                               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:30                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:48                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  5:07                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:47                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:43                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:49                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:33                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  3:44                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  3:50                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:53                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  3:53                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  4:14                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12  5:09                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  5:15                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-12 17:36                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:50                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 17:45                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:13                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-13  0:04                           ` [PATCH v7][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:26                             ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 15:28                               ` [PATCH v3][RFC] hugetlb: add per-node nr_hugepages sysfs attribute Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 18:23                                 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 19:19                                   ` [PATCH v4][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 20:05                                     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 20:29                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-13 21:02                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-23 19:23                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-07-23 20:14                                         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:04                             ` [PATCH v7][RFC] Fix hugetlb pool allocation with empty nodes Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-13 21:50                               ` [PATCH v7][UPDATE][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:28               ` [PATCH v6][RFC] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-11 23:15           ` [PATCH][RFC] Fix INTERLEAVE with memoryless nodes Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:14             ` [PATCH v2][RFC] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  0:42               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  0:57               ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12  1:12                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  1:41                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  1:52                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-12  2:03                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 14:19       ` [PATCH v2] Add populated_map to account for " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:32         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:45         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:17           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 19:22             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:49               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 19:51                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:03                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:52                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 19:58                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 20:00                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 20:06                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 14:10   ` [PATCH] " Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-12 17:35     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12 18:39       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12 18:54         ` Lee Schermerhorn [this message]
2007-06-12 19:00           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  2:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-06-12  2:46   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2007-06-12  2:53   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-12  3:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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