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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	miklos@szeredi.hu, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com,
	tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com,
	trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] lib: dampen the percpu_counter FBC_BATCH
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:58:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1177153137.2934.31.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070421025510.41f97a6a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 02:55 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:51:57 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> 
> > With the current logic the percpu_counter's accuracy delta is quadric
> > wrt the number of cpus in the system, reduce this to O(n ln n).
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> > ---
> >  include/linux/percpu_counter.h |    7 ++-----
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > 
> > Index: linux-2.6-mm/include/linux/percpu_counter.h
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-2.6-mm.orig/include/linux/percpu_counter.h
> > +++ linux-2.6-mm/include/linux/percpu_counter.h
> > @@ -11,6 +11,7 @@
> >  #include <linux/threads.h>
> >  #include <linux/percpu.h>
> >  #include <linux/types.h>
> > +#include <linux/log2.h>
> >  
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> >  
> > @@ -20,11 +21,7 @@ struct percpu_counter {
> >  	s32 *counters;
> >  };
> >  
> > -#if NR_CPUS >= 16
> > -#define FBC_BATCH	(NR_CPUS*2)
> > -#else
> > -#define FBC_BATCH	(NR_CPUS*4)
> > -#endif
> > +#define FBC_BATCH	(8*ilog2(NR_CPUS))
> >  
> >  static inline void percpu_counter_init(struct percpu_counter *fbc, s64 amount)
> >  {
> 
> I worry that this might be too small when there are hundreds of CPUs online.
> 
> With 1024 CPUs we go for the lock once per 80 counts.  That's not much. 
> 
> If we have 1024 CPUs, each one of which is incrementing this counter at N
> Hz, we have 1024/80=12 CPUs all going for the same lock at N Hz.  It could
> get bad.
> 
> But I don't know what the gain is for this loss.  Your changelog should
> have told us.
> 
> What problem is this patch solving?

In 10/10 I introduce bdi_stat_delta() which gives the maximum error of a
single counter. That is used to switch between precise
(percpu_counter_sum) and imprecise (percpu_counter_read) accesses of the
stats.

I worried that the current quadric error would be too large; and as the
ZVC counters also use a logarithmic error bound I thought it would be
good to have here as well.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-21 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-20 15:51 [PATCH 00/10] per device dirty throttling -v5 Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 01/10] revert per-backing_dev-dirty-and-writeback-page-accounting Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 02/10] nfs: remove congestion_end() Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 03/10] lib: dampen the percpu_counter FBC_BATCH Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21  9:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 10:58     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 04/10] lib: percpu_counter_mod64 Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21  9:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 19:21       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 19:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: bdi init hooks Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: scalable bdi statistics counters Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: count reclaimable pages per BDI Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21  9:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: count writeback " Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21  9:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-22  7:19       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22  9:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: expose BDI statistics in sysfs Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21  9:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: per device dirty threshold Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21  9:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 10:38     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 10:54       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 20:25         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-23  6:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23  6:29             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-23  6:39               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 12:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 12:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 19:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 15:48         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-23 15:58           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 16:08             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-22  7:26       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24  2:58   ` Neil Brown
2007-04-24  7:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24  8:19       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24  8:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24  9:14           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24  9:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24  9:47               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 10:00                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 10:12                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 10:19                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 10:24                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 10:40                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 11:22                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 11:50                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 12:07                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-22  9:57 ` [PATCH 00/10] per device dirty throttling -v5 Andrew Morton

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