From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/18] page_pool: use netmem APIs to access page->pp_magic in page_pool_page_is_pp()
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 11:54:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <11568ebd-4c00-463e-a2ca-5c75dbd625ef@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250528104440.GA13050@system.software.com>
On 5/28/25 11:44, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:51:29AM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 5/28/25 10:33, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:20:29AM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> On 5/28/25 10:14, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:07:52AM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/28/25 09:14, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 08:51:47AM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/26/25 03:23, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:21:17AM -0700, Mina Almasry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 8:26 PM Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To simplify struct page, the effort to seperate its own descriptor from
>>>>>>>>>>> struct page is required and the work for page pool is on going.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To achieve that, all the code should avoid accessing page pool members
>>>>>>>>>>> of struct page directly, but use safe APIs for the purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Use netmem_is_pp() instead of directly accessing page->pp_magic in
>>>>>>>>>>> page_pool_page_is_pp().
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> include/linux/mm.h | 5 +----
>>>>>>>>>>> net/core/page_pool.c | 5 +++++
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>>>>>>>> index 8dc012e84033..3f7c80fb73ce 100644
>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -4312,10 +4312,7 @@ int arch_lock_shadow_stack_status(struct task_struct *t, unsigned long status);
>>>>>>>>>>> #define PP_MAGIC_MASK ~(PP_DMA_INDEX_MASK | 0x3UL)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> #ifdef CONFIG_PAGE_POOL
>>>>>>>>>>> -static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>>>>>>>>> -{
>>>>>>>>>>> - return (page->pp_magic & PP_MAGIC_MASK) == PP_SIGNATURE;
>>>>>>>>>>> -}
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I vote for keeping this function as-is (do not convert it to netmem),
>>>>>>>>>> and instead modify it to access page->netmem_desc->pp_magic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once the page pool fields are removed from struct page, struct page will
>>>>>>>>> have neither struct netmem_desc nor the fields..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it's unevitable to cast it to netmem_desc in order to refer to
>>>>>>>>> pp_magic. Again, pp_magic is no longer associated to struct page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once the indirection / page shrinking is realized, the page is
>>>>>>>> supposed to have a type field, isn't it? And all pp_magic trickery
>>>>>>>> will be replaced with something like
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> page_pool_page_is_pp() { return page->type == PAGE_TYPE_PP; }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agree, but we need a temporary solution until then. I will use the
>>>>>>> following way for now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The question is what is the problem that you need another temporary
>>>>>> solution? If, for example, we go the placeholder way, page_pool_page_is_pp()
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer using the place-holder, but Matthew does not. I explained it:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250528013145.GB2986@system.software.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I'm going with the same way as the other approaches e.g. ptdesc.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but that doesn't change my point
>>>
>>> What's your point? The other appoaches do not use place-holders. I
>>> don't get your point.
>>>
>>> As I told you, I will introduce a new struct, netmem_desc, instead of
>>> struct_group_tagged() on struct net_iov, and modify the static assert on
>>> the offsets to keep the important fields between struct page and
>>> netmem_desc.
>>>
>>> Then, is that following your point? Or could you explain your point in
>>> more detail? Did you say other points than these?
>>
>> Then please read the message again first. I was replying to th
>> aliasing with "lru", and even at the place you cut the message it
>> says "for example", which was followed by "You should be able to
>> do the same with the overlay option.".
>
> With struct_group_tagged() on struct net_iov, no idea about how to.
> However, it's doable with a new separate struct, struct netmem_desc.
static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
{
pp_magic = page_to_netdesc(page)->pp_magic;
return pp_magic == ...;
}
page_to_netdesc() is either casting directly in case of full page
overlays, or "&page->netdesc" for the placeholder option.
--
Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-28 10:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-23 3:25 [PATCH 00/18] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 01/18] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc struct_group_tagged()'ed on struct net_iov Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 9:01 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-26 0:56 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:00 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 1:15 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 2:50 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 20:03 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28 1:21 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 3:47 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28 5:03 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:43 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 8:17 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:38 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 02/18] netmem: introduce netmem alloc APIs to wrap page alloc APIs Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 03/18] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put APIs in __page_pool_alloc_page_order() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 04/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_page_order() to __page_pool_alloc_large_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 05/18] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put APIs in __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 06/18] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 3:18 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 07/18] page_pool: use netmem put API in page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:25 ` [PATCH 08/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 09/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_put_page() to __page_pool_put_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 10/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 11/18] mlx4: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 12/18] page_pool: use netmem APIs to access page->pp_magic in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 8:58 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-23 17:21 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 2:23 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 2:36 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 8:40 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-26 9:43 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 9:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-26 10:01 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 5:14 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-05-28 8:15 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 8:14 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 9:07 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 9:14 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 9:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 9:33 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 9:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-28 10:44 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 10:54 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 13/18] mlx5: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:13 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 3:08 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 8:12 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 18:00 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 14/18] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:14 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 15/18] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 16/18] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 17/18] netdevsim: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 3:26 ` [PATCH 18/18] mm, netmem: remove the page pool members in struct page Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:16 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-23 17:55 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-26 1:37 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-26 16:58 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-26 17:33 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-27 1:02 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 1:31 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-27 5:30 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-27 17:38 ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28 1:31 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-28 7:21 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-05-23 6:20 ` [PATCH 00/18] Split netmem from " Taehee Yoo
2025-05-23 7:47 ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-23 17:47 ` SeongJae Park
2025-05-26 1:16 ` Byungchul Park
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