From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
mel@csn.ul.ie, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lhms <lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
kravetz@us.ibm.com, arjanv@infradead.org, arjan@infradead.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
mbligh@mbligh.org, andy@thermo.lanl.gov,
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Lhms-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Fragmentation Avoidance V19
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:34:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1131392070.14381.133.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051107122009.GD3609@elte.hu>
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 13:20 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> RAM removal, not RAM replacement. I explained all the variants in an
> earlier email in this thread. "extending RAM" is relatively easy.
> "replacing RAM" while doable, is probably undesirable. "removing RAM"
> impossible.
Hi Ingo,
I'm usually amused when someone says something is impossible, so I'm
wondering exactly "why"?
If the one requirement is that there must be enough free memory
available to remove, then what's the problem for a fully mapped kernel?
Is it the GPT? Or if there's drivers that physical memory mapped?
I'm not sure of the best way to solve the GPT being in the RAM that is
to be removed, but there might be a way. Basically stop all activities
and update all the tasks->mm.
As for the drivers, one could have a accounting for all physical memory
mapped, and disable the driver if it is using the memory that is to be
removed.
But other then these, what exactly is the problem with removing RAM?
BTW, I'm not suggesting any of this is a good idea, I just like to
understand why something _cant_ be done.
-- Steve
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2005-11-04 1:00 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 1:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 1:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 5:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 6:10 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 6:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 7:26 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 15:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 15:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-06 7:34 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-06 18:18 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 8:44 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-06 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-06 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-07 11:00 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-07 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-07 19:34 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2005-11-07 23:38 ` Joel Schopp
2005-11-04 7:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-11-07 16:42 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-04 14:56 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 15:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 15:39 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 16:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 16:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 17:43 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 16:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 17:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 16:14 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-05 1:52 Seth, Rohit, Friday, November
2005-11-05 1:37 Seth, Rohit, Nick
2005-11-07 0:34 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-07 18:58 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-07 20:51 ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-07 20:55 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-07 20:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-07 21:20 ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-07 21:33 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-08 2:12 ` David Gibson
2005-11-07 21:11 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-07 21:31 ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-04 21:51 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 17:56 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 17:03 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 17:51 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 20:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 21:04 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 21:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-05 2:48 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-06 10:59 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 21:31 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-11-04 22:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-05 0:07 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-06 1:30 ` Zan Lynx
2005-11-06 2:25 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-04 15:19 Andy Nelson
2005-10-30 18:33 Mel Gorman
2005-10-31 5:57 ` [Lhms-devel] " Mike Kravetz
2005-10-31 6:37 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 7:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 7:11 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 16:19 ` Mel Gorman
2005-10-31 23:54 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01 1:28 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 14:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-31 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 19:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-31 23:59 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01 1:36 ` Mel Gorman
2005-10-31 23:29 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01 0:59 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01 2:07 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 2:35 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01 11:57 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 13:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 14:10 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 14:49 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 15:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 15:22 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 8:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 9:02 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 9:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 9:32 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 9:48 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 10:54 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 15:02 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 3:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-03 15:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-03 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 15:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 16:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-03 16:27 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 16:52 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 17:48 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-03 17:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 17:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-03 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 18:17 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 18:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 22:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 23:01 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 0:58 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 1:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 1:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-11-04 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 1:48 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-04 1:59 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 2:35 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-04 1:26 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 21:11 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 20:00 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-03 20:46 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 18:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 22:37 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 23:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 0:42 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 4:39 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 16:22 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 15:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 14:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-01 16:48 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2005-11-01 16:59 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2005-11-01 17:19 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 0:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2005-11-02 11:22 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 18:06 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-11-02 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 7:46 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 8:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 9:12 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 10:17 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 23:47 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 4:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-03 6:07 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 7:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-03 17:54 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 20:13 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 16:35 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 16:23 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-03 18:27 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 18:49 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-04 4:52 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 5:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 5:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 6:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 7:10 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 7:45 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 9:52 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 15:27 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 15:19 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 17:38 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 6:16 ` Bron Nelson
2005-11-02 10:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 11:04 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 12:42 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 15:02 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-03 0:10 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-02 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 0:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 7:42 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 8:24 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 8:33 ` Yasunori Goto
2005-11-02 8:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 14:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 23:28 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 5:26 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 5:41 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 14:41 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 14:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 15:23 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 18:33 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 19:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 14:50 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 15:24 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 5:11 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01 18:23 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 20:31 ` Joel Schopp
2005-11-01 20:59 ` Joel Schopp
2005-11-02 1:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 1:41 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 2:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 2:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 2:49 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 4:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 5:09 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 5:14 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 6:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2005-11-02 10:15 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 7:19 ` Yasunori Goto
2005-11-02 11:48 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 11:41 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 11:37 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 15:25 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-01 15:33 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 16:57 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 17:00 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 18:58 ` Rob Landley
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