From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: jschopp@austin.ibm.com
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Avoiding external fragmentation with a placement policy Version 12
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:48:08 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1117770488.5084.25.camel@npiggin-nld.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <429F2B26.9070509@austin.ibm.com>
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 10:52 -0500, Joel Schopp wrote:
> > I see your point... Mel's patch has failure cases though.
> > For example, someone turns swap off, or mlocks some memory
> > (I guess we then add the page migration defrag patch and
> > problem is solved?).
>
> This reminds me that page migration defrag will be pretty useless
> without something like this done first. There will be stuff that can't
> be migrated and it needs to be grouped together somehow.
>
> In summary here are the reasons I see to run with Mel's patch:
>
> 1. It really helps with medium-large allocations under memory pressure.
> 2. Page migration defrag will need it.
> 3. Memory hotplug remove will need it.
>
I guess I'm now more convinced of its need ;)
add:
4. large pages
5. (hopefully) helps with smaller allocations (ie. order 3)
It would really help your cause in the short term if you can
demonstrate improvements for say order-3 allocations (eg. use
gige networking, TSO, jumbo frames, etc).
> On the downside we have:
>
> 1. Slightly more complexity in the allocator.
>
For some definitions of 'slightly', perhaps :(
Although I can't argue that a buddy allocator is no good without
being able to satisfy higher order allocations.
So in that case, I'm personally OK with it going into -mm. Hopefully
there will be a bit more review and hopefully some simplification if
possible.
Last question: how does it go on systems with really tiny memories?
(4MB, 8MB, that kind of thing).
> I'd personally trade a little extra complexity for any of the 3 upsides.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-03 3:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-31 11:20 Mel Gorman
2005-06-01 20:55 ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-01 23:09 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-01 23:23 ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-01 23:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-01 23:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-02 0:02 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-02 0:20 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-02 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-02 15:52 ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-02 19:50 ` Ray Bryant
2005-06-02 20:10 ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-04 16:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-06-03 3:48 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-06-03 4:49 ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-03 5:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 5:37 ` David S. Miller, Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 5:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 5:51 ` David S. Miller, Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 13:13 ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-03 6:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-03 13:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 16:43 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-03 18:43 ` David S. Miller, Dave Hansen
2005-06-04 1:44 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-04 2:15 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-05 19:52 ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-03 13:05 ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-03 14:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-08 17:03 ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-08 17:18 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-10 16:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-10 17:53 ` Steve Lord
2005-06-02 18:28 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-02 18:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-02 13:15 ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-02 14:01 ` Martin J. Bligh
[not found] ` <20050603174706.GA25663@localhost.localdomain>
2005-06-03 17:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-01 23:47 ` Mike Kravetz
2005-06-01 23:56 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-02 0:07 ` Mike Kravetz
2005-06-02 9:49 ` Mel Gorman
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