From: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
To: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
Cc: ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] CKRM: Basic changes to the core kernel
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:57:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112727471.19430.116.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050405182240.GE32645@chandralinux.beaverton.ibm.com>
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:22 -0700, Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:54:20AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > If you find a way to track things based on files, you could keep your
> > class pointers in the struct address_space, or even in the vma,
> > depending on what behavior you want. You could keep anonymous stuff in
> > the anon_vma, just like the objrmap code.
>
> This is the first version of memory controller... Handling shared pages
> appropriately are in the plans.
Perhaps it's a better idea to wait until you have this more mature
version before submitting it. It would be a shame to put all of this
per-page stuff in, only to rip it out. Doing it that way isn't very
incremental, but I don't think they'd share too much code anyway.
> > ... if the class is behaving itself. Somebody trying to take down a
> > machine, or a single badly-behaved or runaway app might not behave like
> > that.
>
> There are checks in that code to make sure that a runaway app doesn't
> get the kernel into this code path often and bring down the system...
> instead the runaway app(its class) is penalised.
Penalized how? Reducing the task's scheduler slices? Can you point to
the code?
> > > Also, the loop is just to wakeup kswapd once..
> > > may be I can get rid of that and use pgdat_list directly.
> >
> > I'd try to be a little more selective than a big for loop like that.
>
> 'big' for loop ? in that code path ?
> ckrm_class_limit_ok(struct ckrm_mem_res *cls)
> {
...
> + for (i = 0; i < MAX_NR_ZONES; i++)
> + pg_total += cls->pg_total[i];
Sorry, I was confusing this with something equivalent to
for_each_node().
That brings another question, though. How does this interact with NUMA?
The classes don't appear to track any per-node information.
> + if (cls->pg_limit == CKRM_SHARE_DONTCARE) {
> + struct ckrm_mem_res *parcls = ckrm_get_res_class(cls->parent,
> + mem_rcbs.resid, struct ckrm_mem_res);
> + ret = (parcls ? ckrm_class_limit_ok(parcls) : 0);
> + } else
> + ret = (pg_total <= cls->pg_limit);
> +
> + return ret;
That looks suspiciously like recursion. How is the recursion limited?
> > > > SGI's machines? What about an 8-node x44[05]? Why can't you call it
> > > > from interrupts?
> > >
> > > I just wanted to avoid limit related failures in interrupt context, as it
> > > might lead to wierd problems.
> >
> > You mean you didn't want to make your code robust enough to handle it?
> > Is there something fundamental keeping you from checking limits when in
> > an interrupt?
>
> It is not the 'checking limit' part that I meant in my reply. It is the
> failure due to over limit(that the class is over its limit).
>
> This is my thinking: if a class is not configured properly, and is over
> its limit in interrupt context, we are going to fail the memory alloc,
> which 'could' lead to unwanted results in the system depending on how the
> interrupt handler treats the alloc failure ;)...
No.
Interrupt handlers must use GFP_ATOMIC when allocating. This
allocations are likely to fail, and the writers of the handlers know it.
Interrupts handlers must be equipped to deal with these, or it's a bug
in the interrupt handler.
Is there any other reason to have the !in_interrupt() part?
-- Dave
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-02 3:12 Chandra Seetharaman
2005-04-04 13:45 ` Dave Hansen
2005-04-05 17:25 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-04-05 17:54 ` Dave Hansen
2005-04-05 18:22 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-04-05 18:57 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2005-04-05 19:38 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2005-05-19 0:31 Chandra Seetharaman
2005-06-24 22:21 Chandra Seetharaman
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