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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, hch@infradead.org,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Device mem changes vs pinning/zerocopy changes
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 15:56:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1097885.1749048961@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aDnTsvbyKCTkZbOR@mini-arch>

Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com> wrote:

> >  (1) Separate fragment lifetime management from sk_buff.  No more wangling
> >      of refcounts in the skbuff code.  If you clone an skb, you stick an
> >      extra ref on the lifetime management struct, not the page.
> 
> For device memory TCP we already have this: net_devmem_dmabuf_binding
> is the owner of the frags. And when we reference skb frag we reference
> only this owner, not individual chunks: __skb_frag_ref -> get_netmem ->
> net_devmem_get_net_iov (ref on the binding).
>
> Will it be possible to generalize this to cover MSG_ZEROCOPY and splice
> cases? From what I can tell, this is somewhat equivalent of your net_txbuf.

Yes and no.  The net_devmem stuff that's now upstream still manages refs on a
per-skb-frag basis.  What I'm looking to do is to move it out of the skb and
into a separate struct so that the ref on a chunk of memory can be shared
between several skb-frags, quite possibly spread between several skbs.

This is especially important for various types of zerocopy memory where we
won't actually be allowed to take refs.

David



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-04 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-30 15:14 David Howells
2025-05-30 15:50 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-05-30 16:22 ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-04 14:56 ` David Howells [this message]
2025-06-05 18:59   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-04 15:34 ` David Howells
2025-06-05 19:27   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-04 15:59 ` David Howells
2025-06-05 19:30   ` Mina Almasry

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