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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/9] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle in-place shared memory as guest_memfd backed memory
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 21:42:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <103b8afc-96e3-4a04-b36c-9a8154296426@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+EHjTwjShH8vw-YsSmPk0yNY3akLFT3R9COtWLVgLozT_G7nA@mail.gmail.com>

On 14.04.25 18:03, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 at 12:51, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 18.03.25 17:18, Fuad Tabba wrote:
>>> For VMs that allow sharing guest_memfd backed memory in-place,
>>> handle that memory the same as "private" guest_memfd memory. This
>>> means that faulting that memory in the host or in the guest will
>>> go through the guest_memfd subsystem.
>>>
>>> Note that the word "private" in the name of the function
>>> kvm_mem_is_private() doesn't necessarily indicate that the memory
>>> isn't shared, but is due to the history and evolution of
>>> guest_memfd and the various names it has received. In effect,
>>> this function is used to multiplex between the path of a normal
>>> page fault and the path of a guest_memfd backed page fault.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
>>> ---
>>>    include/linux/kvm_host.h | 3 ++-
>>>    1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
>>> index 601bbcaa5e41..3d5595a71a2a 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/kvm_host.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
>>> @@ -2521,7 +2521,8 @@ static inline bool kvm_mem_is_private(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn)
>>>    #else
>>>    static inline bool kvm_mem_is_private(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn)
>>>    {
>>> -     return false;
>>> +     return kvm_arch_gmem_supports_shared_mem(kvm) &&
>>> +            kvm_slot_can_be_private(gfn_to_memslot(kvm, gfn));
>>>    }
>>>    #endif /* CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES */
>>>
>>
>> I've been thinking long about this, and was wondering if we should instead
>> clean up the code to decouple the "private" from gmem handling first.
>>
>> I know, this was already discussed a couple of times, but faking that
>> shared memory is private looks odd.
> 
> I agree. I've been wanting to do that as part of a separate series,
> since renaming discussions sometimes tend to take a disproportionate
> amount of time.But the confusion the current naming (and overloading
> of terms) is causing is probably worse.

Exactly my thoughts. The cleanup diff I was able to come up with is not 
too crazy, so it feels feasible to just include the cleanups as a 
preparation for mmap() where we introduce the concept of shared memory 
in guest_memfd.

> 
>>
>> I played with the code to star cleaning this up. I ended up with the following
>> gmem-terminology  cleanup patches (not even compile tested)
>>
>> KVM: rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
>> KVM: rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GMEM
>> KVM: rename kvm_arch_has_private_mem() to kvm_arch_supports_gmem()
>> KVM: x86: rename kvm->arch.has_private_mem to kvm->arch.supports_gmem
>> KVM: rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem()
>> KVM: x86: generalize private fault lookups to "gmem" fault lookups
>>
>> https://github.com/davidhildenbrand/linux/tree/gmem_shared_prep
>>
>> On top of that, I was wondering if we could look into doing something like
>> the following. It would also allow for pulling pages out of gmem for
>> existing SW-protected VMs once they enable shared memory for GMEM IIUC.
>>
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>> index 08eebd24a0e18..6f878cab0f466 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>> @@ -4495,11 +4495,6 @@ static int kvm_mmu_faultin_pfn_gmem(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
>>    {
>>           int max_order, r;
>>
>> -       if (!kvm_slot_has_gmem(fault->slot)) {
>> -               kvm_mmu_prepare_memory_fault_exit(vcpu, fault);
>> -               return -EFAULT;
>> -       }
>> -
>>           r = kvm_gmem_get_pfn(vcpu->kvm, fault->slot, fault->gfn, &fault->pfn,
>>                                &fault->refcounted_page, &max_order);
>>           if (r) {
>> @@ -4518,8 +4513,19 @@ static int __kvm_mmu_faultin_pfn(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
>>                                    struct kvm_page_fault *fault)
>>    {
>>           unsigned int foll = fault->write ? FOLL_WRITE : 0;
>> +       bool use_gmem = false;
>> +
>> +       if (fault->is_private) {
>> +               if (!kvm_slot_has_gmem(fault->slot)) {
>> +                       kvm_mmu_prepare_memory_fault_exit(vcpu, fault);
>> +                       return -EFAULT;
>> +               }
>> +               use_gmem = true;
>> +       } else if (kvm_slot_has_gmem_with_shared(fault->slot)) {
>> +               use_gmem = true;
>> +       }
>>
>> -       if (fault->is_private)
>> +       if (use_gmem)
>>                   return kvm_mmu_faultin_pfn_gmem(vcpu, fault);
>>
>>           foll |= FOLL_NOWAIT;
>>
>>
>> That is, we'd not claim that things are private when they are not, but instead
>> teach the code about shared memory coming from gmem.
>>
>> There might be some more missing, just throwing it out there if I am completely off.
> 
> For me these changes seem to be reasonable all in all. I might want to
> suggest a couple of modifications, but I guess the bigger question is
> what the KVM maintainers and guest_memfd's main contributors think.

I'm afraid we won't get a reply before we officially send it ...

> 
> Also, how do you suggest we go about this? Send out a separate series
> first, before continuing with the mapping series? Or have it all as
> one big series? It could be something to add to the agenda for
> Thursday.

... and ideally it would be part of this series. After all, this series 
shrunk a bit :)

Feel free to use my commits when helpful: they are still missing 
descriptions and probably have other issues. Feel free to turn my SOB 
into a Co-developed-by+SOB and make yourself the author.

Alternatively, let me know and I can polish them up and we can discuss 
what you have in mind (either here or elsewhere).

I'd suggest we go full-steam on this series to finally get it over the 
finish line :)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-14 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-18 16:18 [PATCH v7 0/9] KVM: Mapping guest_memfd backed memory at the host for software protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] mm: Consolidate freeing of typed folios on final folio_put() Fuad Tabba
2025-04-14 10:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-14 10:15     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle final folio_put() of guest_memfd pages Fuad Tabba
2025-04-14 10:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to map guest_memfd() pages Fuad Tabba
2025-04-08 12:04   ` Shivank Garg
2025-04-08 13:17     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-08 16:58     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-09  7:17       ` Shivank Garg
2025-04-10 22:44         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-11 10:34           ` Shivank Garg
2025-04-14 10:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-14 10:15     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle in-place shared memory as guest_memfd backed memory Fuad Tabba
2025-04-14 11:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-14 16:03     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-14 19:42       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-04-15 13:51         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-15 17:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-14 18:07     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-14 20:06       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-15 21:50         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-16 12:53           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-16 12:30     ` Patrick Roy
2025-04-16 12:41       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] KVM: x86: Mark KVM_X86_SW_PROTECTED_VM as supporting guest_memfd shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-03-26 14:42   ` kernel test robot
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() calculation of force_pte Fuad Tabba
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] KVM: arm64: Enable mapping guest_memfd in arm64 Fuad Tabba
2025-03-18 16:18 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] KVM: guest_memfd: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba
2025-04-01 17:25   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-02  8:56     ` Fuad Tabba

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