From: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
"Yishai Hadas" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
"Shameer Kolothum" <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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linux-mm@kvack.org, "Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/17] Provide a new two step DMA mapping API
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 00:52:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1034b694-2b25-4649-a004-19e601061b90@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250319175840.GG10600@ziepe.ca>
On 19.03.2025 18:58, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 11:52:58AM +0100, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
>
>>> The only way to do so is to use dma_map_sg_attrs(), which relies on SG
>>> (the one that we want to remove) to map P2P pages.
>> That's something I don't get yet. How P2P pages can be used with
>> dma_map_sg_attrs(), but not with dma_map_page_attrs()? Both operate
>> internally on struct page pointer.
> It is a bit subtle, I ran in to this when exploring enabling proper
> P2P for dma_map_resource() too.
>
> The API signatures are:
>
> dma_addr_t dma_map_page_attrs(struct device *dev, struct page *page,
> size_t offset, size_t size, enum dma_data_direction dir,
> unsigned long attrs);
> void dma_unmap_page_attrs(struct device *dev, dma_addr_t addr, size_t size,
> enum dma_data_direction dir, unsigned long attrs);
>
> The thing to notice immediately is that the unmap path does not get
> passed a struct page.
I see, thanks for pointing this out. It looks that I've encountered this
issue too long time ago when I was implementing first
iommu-to-dma-mapping glue for ARM arch. The lack of some kind of
'object' returned from dma_map* (and dma_alloc*) and passed back to
dma_unmap* (and dma_free_*) required some non-trivial workarounds there
and made the unmap/free path a bit more complicated.
> So, lets think about the flow when the iommu is turned on.
>
> For normal struct page memory:
>
> - dma_map_page_attrs() allocates some IOVA and returns it in the
> dma_addr_t and then maps the struct page to the iommu page table
>
> - dma_unmap_page_attrs() frees the IOVA from the given dma_addr_t
>
> If we think about P2P now:
>
> - dma_map_page_attrs() can inspect the struct page and determine it
> is P2P. It computes a bus address which is not an IOVA, and does
> not transit through the IOMMU. No IOVA allocation is performed. the
> bus address is returned as the dma_addr_t
>
> - dma_unmap_page_attrs() ... is impossible. We just get this
> dma_addr_t that doesn't have enough information to tell anymore if
> the address is a P2P bus address or not, so we can't tell if we
> should unmap an iova from the dma_addr_t :\
>
> The sg path fixes this because it introduced a new flag in the
> scatterlist, SG_DMA_BUS_ADDRESS, that allows the sg map path to record
> the information for the unmap path so it can do the right thing.
>
> Leon's approach fixes this by putting an overarching transaction state
> around the DMA operation so that map and unmap operations can look in
> the state and determine if this is a P2P or non P2P map and then know
> how to unmap.
>
> For some background here, Christoph gave me this idea back at LSF/MM
> in Vancouver (two years ago now). At the time I was looking at
> replacing scatterlist and giving new DMA API ops to operate on a
> "scatterlist v2" structure.
>
> Christoph's vision was to make a performance DMA API path that could
> be used to implement any scatterlist-like data structure very
> efficiently without having to teach the DMA API about all sorts of
> scatterlist-like things.
Thanks for explaining one more motivation behind this patchset!
Best regards
--
Marek Szyprowski, PhD
Samsung R&D Institute Poland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-20 23:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-05 14:40 Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 01/17] PCI/P2PDMA: Refactor the p2pdma mapping helpers Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 02/17] dma-mapping: move the PCI P2PDMA mapping helpers to pci-p2pdma.h Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 03/17] iommu: generalize the batched sync after map interface Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-17 9:52 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-03-17 13:44 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 04/17] iommu: add kernel-doc for iommu_unmap and iommu_unmap_fast Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 05/17] dma-mapping: Provide an interface to allow allocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 06/17] iommu/dma: Factor out a iommu_dma_map_swiotlb helper Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 07/17] dma-mapping: Implement link/unlink ranges API Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 08/17] dma-mapping: add a dma_need_unmap helper Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 09/17] docs: core-api: document the IOVA-based API Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 10/17] mm/hmm: let users to tag specific PFN with DMA mapped bit Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 11/17] mm/hmm: provide generic DMA managing logic Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 12/17] RDMA/umem: Store ODP access mask information in PFN Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 13/17] RDMA/core: Convert UMEM ODP DMA mapping to caching IOVA and page linkage Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 14/17] RDMA/umem: Separate implicit ODP initialization from explicit ODP Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 15/17] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly use number of pages instead of allocated length Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 16/17] vfio/mlx5: Rewrite create mkey flow to allow better code reuse Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-05 14:40 ` [PATCH v7 17/17] vfio/mlx5: Enable the DMA link API Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-20 12:48 ` [PATCH v7 00/17] Provide a new two step DMA mapping API Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-28 19:54 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-02 8:57 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-21 16:05 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-25 12:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-25 14:41 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-04-01 1:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-27 17:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-12 9:28 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-03-12 19:32 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-14 10:52 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-03-14 18:49 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-19 8:30 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-19 17:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 23:52 ` Marek Szyprowski [this message]
2025-03-22 0:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-28 14:18 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-03-31 19:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-31 14:46 ` Chuck Lever
2025-04-18 1:20 ` Dan Williams
2025-03-21 13:52 ` Robin Murphy
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