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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu>
Cc: root@chaos.analogic.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] strict VM overcommit for stock 2.4
Date: 19 Jul 2002 11:06:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1027101993.1116.199.camel@sinai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0207190843200.30902-100000@divine.city.tvnet.hu>

On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 00:30, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote:

> *However* distinguishing root and non-root users also in strict VM
> overcommit would make a significant difference for general purpose
> systems, this was always my point.
> 
> Can you see the non-orthogonality now?

Nope, I still disagree and there is no point going back and forth.

We both agree that there are situations where both resource accounting
(or some sort of root-protection like you want) and strict overcommit is
required.

I contend there are situations where only one or the other is needed.

More importantly, I argue the two things should be kept separate. 
Putting some root safety net into strict accounting is a hack (how much
of a net? etc.).  You want to keep users from ruining things - get
per-user resource limits.  You want to keep the machine from
overcommiting memory and thus not OOMing?  Get strict accounting.  You
want both?  Use both.

I provided the first piece.

	Robert Love

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-19 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-11 22:28 [PATCH] strict VM overcommit Robert Love
2002-07-12 17:30 ` [PATCH] strict VM overcommit for stock 2.4 Robert Love
2002-07-18 15:22   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 16:31     ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 16:36       ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 17:42         ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 17:25           ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 17:31             ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:32               ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:58               ` Alan Cox
2002-07-18 18:01                 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:52                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 20:52                   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-19  6:17                 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 22:22               ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-19  7:47                 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:28             ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 17:50               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 19:25                 ` stoffel
2002-07-19  5:52                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:56               ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:03                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:19                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:22                     ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 20:49                       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-19 16:49                   ` Amit Shah
2002-07-19 17:16                     ` Robert Love
2002-07-20  5:02                       ` Amit Shah
2002-07-18 19:10                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:35                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:41                     ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-18 20:23                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 20:43                         ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-19  7:30                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-19 18:06                     ` Robert Love [this message]
2002-07-18 22:24             ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-18 22:30               ` Robert Love

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