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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mm_init: Don't call cond_resched() in deferred_init_memmap_chunk() if rcu_preempt_depth() set
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 12:59:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0fcbb05f-fa7b-47a1-bd4a-d59f1e0ddc35@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260122075747.uSLrSJez@linutronix.de>

On 1/22/26 2:57 AM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-01-21 13:27:32 [-0800], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>>>> --- a/mm/mm_init.c
>>>>> +++ b/mm/mm_init.c
>>>>> @@ -2085,7 +2085,12 @@ deferred_init_memmap_chunk(unsigned long start_pfn, unsigned long end_pfn,
>>>>>    			spfn = chunk_end;
>>>>> -			if (irqs_disabled())
>>>>> +			/*
>>>>> +			 * pgdat_resize_lock() only disables irqs in non-RT
>>>>> +			 * kernels but calls rcu_read_lock() in a PREEMPT_RT
>>>>> +			 * kernel.
>>>>> +			 */
>>>>> +			if (irqs_disabled() || rcu_preempt_depth())
>>>>>    				touch_nmi_watchdog();
>>>> rcu_preempt_depth() seems a fairly internal low-level thing - it's
>>>> rarely used.
> If you acquire a lock from time to time and you pass a bool the let the
> function below know whether scheduling is fine or not then it is
> obvious. If you choose to check for symptoms of an acquired lock then
> you have to use also the rarely used functions ;)
>
>>> That is true. Beside the scheduler, workqueue also use rcu_preempt_depth().
>>> This API is included in "include/linux/rcupdate.h" which is included
>>> directly or indirectly by many kernel files. So even though it is rarely
>>> used, but it is still a public API.
>> It is a bit tricky, for example, given a kernel built with both
>> CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y and CONFIG_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=y, it will never
>> invoke touch_nmi_watchdog(), even if it really is in an RCU read-side
>> critical section.  This is because it was intended for lockdep-like use,
>> where (for example) you don't want to complain about sleeping in an RCU
>> read-side critical section unless you are 100% sure that you are in fact
>> in an RCU read-side critical section.
>>
>> Maybe something like this?
>>
>> 	if (irqs_disabled() || !IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU) || rcu_preempt_depth())
>> 		touch_nmi_watchdog();
> I don't understand the PREEMPT_NONE+DYNAMIC reasoning. irqs_disabled()
> should not be affected by this and rcu_preempt_depth() will be 0 for
> !CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU so I don't think this is required.
>
>> This would *always* invoke touch_nmi_watchdog() for such kernels, which
>> might or might not be OK.
>>
>> I freely confesss that I am not sure which of these is appropriate in
>> this setting.
> What about a more straight forward and obvious approach?
>
> diff --git a/mm/mm_init.c b/mm/mm_init.c
> index fc2a6f1e518f1..0b283fd48b282 100644
> --- a/mm/mm_init.c
> +++ b/mm/mm_init.c
> @@ -2059,7 +2059,7 @@ static unsigned long __init deferred_init_pages(struct zone *zone,
>    */
>   static unsigned long __init
>   deferred_init_memmap_chunk(unsigned long start_pfn, unsigned long end_pfn,
> -			   struct zone *zone)
> +			   struct zone *zone, bool may_schedule)
>   {
>   	int nid = zone_to_nid(zone);
>   	unsigned long nr_pages = 0;
> @@ -2085,10 +2085,10 @@ deferred_init_memmap_chunk(unsigned long start_pfn, unsigned long end_pfn,
>   
>   			spfn = chunk_end;
>   
> -			if (irqs_disabled())
> -				touch_nmi_watchdog();
> -			else
> +			if (may_schedule)
>   				cond_resched();
> +			else
> +				touch_nmi_watchdog();
>   		}
>   	}
>   
> @@ -2101,7 +2101,7 @@ deferred_init_memmap_job(unsigned long start_pfn, unsigned long end_pfn,
>   {
>   	struct zone *zone = arg;
>   
> -	deferred_init_memmap_chunk(start_pfn, end_pfn, zone);
> +	deferred_init_memmap_chunk(start_pfn, end_pfn, zone, true);
>   }
>   
>   static unsigned int __init
> @@ -2216,7 +2216,7 @@ bool __init deferred_grow_zone(struct zone *zone, unsigned int order)
>   	for (spfn = first_deferred_pfn, epfn = SECTION_ALIGN_UP(spfn + 1);
>   	     nr_pages < nr_pages_needed && spfn < zone_end_pfn(zone);
>   	     spfn = epfn, epfn += PAGES_PER_SECTION) {
> -		nr_pages += deferred_init_memmap_chunk(spfn, epfn, zone);
> +		nr_pages += deferred_init_memmap_chunk(spfn, epfn, zone, false);
>   	}
>   
>   	/*
>
> Wouldn't this work?

Yes, I think that is the better approach. I will post a v3 with change 
as Mike has no objection to it. Thanks!

Cheers,
Longman



      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-22 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-21 19:10 Waiman Long
2026-01-21 19:43 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-21 20:07   ` Waiman Long
2026-01-21 21:27     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-22  7:57       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-22  9:47         ` Mike Rapoport
2026-01-22 17:17         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-22 17:59         ` Waiman Long [this message]

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