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From: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	linmiaohe@huawei.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, jpoimboe@kernel.org,
	linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	tianruidong@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/mce: dump error msg from severities
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 17:13:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0fb57eb8-ae5b-4909-9afb-2104766e59e8@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250302073711.GBZ8QKp1QstGaVGqBR@fat_crate.local>



在 2025/3/2 15:37, Borislav Petkov 写道:
> On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 03:14:52PM +0800, Shuai Xue wrote:
>>>>       "mce: Uncorrected hardware memory error in user-access at 3b116c400"
>>
>> It is the current message in kill_me_maybe(), not added by me.
> 
> Doesn't change the fact that it is not really helpful when it comes to logging
> all errors properly.
> 
>    [ Properly means using a structured log format with the tracepoint and not
>      dumping it into dmesg. ]
> 
> And figuring out what hw is failing so that it can be replaced. No one has
> come with a real need for making it better, more useful.
> 
> You're coming with what I think is such a need and I'm trying to explain to
> you what needs to be done. But you want to feed your AI with dmesg and solve
> it this way.
> 
> If you wanna do it right, we can talk. Otherwise, have fun.

I see. So I am just curious why we define `msg` in `severities`?

I perfer to use structured log format with the tracepoint, and we do use it in
production, but it lacks of process context.

AMD folks add error message for panic errors[1] to help debugging
in which the EDAC driver is not able to decode.

For non-fatal errors, is it reasonable to assume that all users are using
tracepoint-based tools like Rasdaemon?

[1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220405183212.354606-1-carlos.bilbao@amd.com/

> 
>> 3. We need to identify and implement potential improvements.
>>
>> "mce: Uncorrected hardware memory error in user-access at 3b116c400"
>>
>> is *nothing* but
>>
>> "mce: Action required: data load in error recoverable area of kernel"
>>
>> helps.
> 
> I don't think you've read what I wrote but that's ok. If you think it helps,
> you can keep it in your kernels.
> 

Fine, I could drop patch 1 and 2 in next version.

Thanks.
Shuai


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-02  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-17  6:33 [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix regressions in memory failure handling Shuai Xue
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86/mce: Collect error message for severities below MCE_PANIC_SEVERITY Shuai Xue
2025-02-18  7:58   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18  9:39     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18  9:50       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/mce: dump error msg from severities Shuai Xue
2025-02-28 12:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01  6:16     ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-01 11:10       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01 14:03         ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-01 18:47           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-02  7:14             ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-02  7:37               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-02  9:13                 ` Shuai Xue [this message]
2025-03-03 16:49             ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-03 18:08               ` Yazen Ghannam
2025-03-05  1:50               ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-05 16:16                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-05 22:33                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-06 15:58                     ` Yazen Ghannam
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/mce: add EX_TYPE_EFAULT_REG as in-kernel recovery context to fix copy-from-user operations regression Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 12:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 13:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 14:03       ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 13:28     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 14:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 16:48         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 10:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-21  6:52             ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix incorrect "not recovered" report for recovered clean pages Shuai Xue
2025-02-19  6:34   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-19  8:54     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-19 17:15       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20  1:16         ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm: memory-failure: move return value documentation to function declaration Shuai Xue
2025-02-19  6:31   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-18  3:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix regressions in memory failure handling Andrew Morton
2025-02-18  8:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18  8:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 11:31   ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 12:24     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 13:08       ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 13:17         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 13:53           ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 15:31             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19  7:13               ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 17:59         ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-19  6:04           ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 17:30       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-19  8:10         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 17:11           ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20 11:19             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-20 17:50               ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-21  6:05                 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-24 22:01                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-25  1:51                     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-28 12:35                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01  5:54                         ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-24 21:50                 ` Borislav Petkov

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