From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: introduce VM_MAYBE_GUARD and make visible in /proc/$pid/smaps
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 09:44:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f7186b3-16bd-44b7-a3fe-637af9d25dd3@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQ24HAAxYLhIvV5U@google.com>
On Fri, Nov 07, 2025 at 09:13:00AM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2025 at 02:54:33PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > +cc Alice for rust stuff
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2025 at 02:27:56PM +0000, Pedro Falcato wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2025 at 10:46:12AM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > > > Currently, if a user needs to determine if guard regions are present in a
> > > > range, they have to scan all VMAs (or have knowledge of which ones might
> > > > have guard regions).
> > > >
> > > > Since commit 8e2f2aeb8b48 ("fs/proc/task_mmu: add guard region bit to
> > > > pagemap") and the related commit a516403787e0 ("fs/proc: extend the
> > > > PAGEMAP_SCAN ioctl to report guard regions"), users can use either
> > > > /proc/$pid/pagemap or the PAGEMAP_SCAN functionality to perform this
> > > > operation at a virtual address level.
> > > >
> > > > This is not ideal, and it gives no visibility at a /proc/$pid/smaps level
> > > > that guard regions exist in ranges.
> > > >
> > > > This patch remedies the situation by establishing a new VMA flag,
> > > > VM_MAYBE_GUARD, to indicate that a VMA may contain guard regions (it is
> > > > uncertain because we cannot reasonably determine whether a
> > > > MADV_GUARD_REMOVE call has removed all of the guard regions in a VMA, and
> > > > additionally VMAs may change across merge/split).
> > > >
> > > > We utilise 0x800 for this flag which makes it available to 32-bit
> > > > architectures also, a flag that was previously used by VM_DENYWRITE, which
> > > > was removed in commit 8d0920bde5eb ("mm: remove VM_DENYWRITE") and hasn't
> > > > bee reused yet.
> > > >
> > > > We also update the smaps logic and documentation to identify these VMAs.
> > > >
> > > > Another major use of this functionality is that we can use it to identify
> > > > that we ought to copy page tables on fork.
> > > >
> > > > We do not actually implement usage of this flag in mm/madvise.c yet as we
> > > > need to allow some VMA flags to be applied atomically under mmap/VMA read
> > > > lock in order to avoid the need to acquire a write lock for this purpose.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst | 1 +
> > > > fs/proc/task_mmu.c | 1 +
> > > > include/linux/mm.h | 3 +++
> > > > include/trace/events/mmflags.h | 1 +
> > > > mm/memory.c | 4 ++++
> > > > tools/testing/vma/vma_internal.h | 3 +++
> > > > 6 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst
> > > > index 0b86a8022fa1..b8a423ca590a 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst
> > > > @@ -591,6 +591,7 @@ encoded manner. The codes are the following:
> > > > sl sealed
> > > > lf lock on fault pages
> > > > dp always lazily freeable mapping
> > > > + gu maybe contains guard regions (if not set, definitely doesn't)
> > > > == =======================================
> > >
> > > The nittiest
> > > of nits: =============================================================
> >
> > Sigh :) OK will fix.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Note that there is no guarantee that every flag and associated mnemonic will
> > > > diff --git a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> > > > index 8a9894aefbca..a420dcf9ffbb 100644
> > > > --- a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> > > > +++ b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> > > > @@ -1147,6 +1147,7 @@ static void show_smap_vma_flags(struct seq_file *m, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > > > [ilog2(VM_MAYSHARE)] = "ms",
> > > > [ilog2(VM_GROWSDOWN)] = "gd",
> > > > [ilog2(VM_PFNMAP)] = "pf",
> > > > + [ilog2(VM_MAYBE_GUARD)] = "gu",
> > > > [ilog2(VM_LOCKED)] = "lo",
> > > > [ilog2(VM_IO)] = "io",
> > > > [ilog2(VM_SEQ_READ)] = "sr",
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> > > > index 6e5ca5287e21..2a5516bff75a 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> > > > @@ -271,6 +271,8 @@ extern struct rw_semaphore nommu_region_sem;
> > > > extern unsigned int kobjsize(const void *objp);
> > > > #endif
> > > >
> > > > +#define VM_MAYBE_GUARD_BIT 11
> > > > +
> > > > /*
> > > > * vm_flags in vm_area_struct, see mm_types.h.
> > > > * When changing, update also include/trace/events/mmflags.h
> > > > @@ -296,6 +298,7 @@ extern unsigned int kobjsize(const void *objp);
> > > > #define VM_UFFD_MISSING 0
> > > > #endif /* CONFIG_MMU */
> > > > #define VM_PFNMAP 0x00000400 /* Page-ranges managed without "struct page", just pure PFN */
> > > > +#define VM_MAYBE_GUARD BIT(VM_MAYBE_GUARD_BIT) /* The VMA maybe contains guard regions. */
> > >
> > > Don't we also need an adjustment on the rust side for this BIT()? Like we
> > > for f04aad36a07c ("mm/ksm: fix flag-dropping behavior in ksm_madvise").
> >
> > That's a bit unhelpful if rust can't cope with extremely basic assignments like
> > that and we just have to know to add helpers :/
> >
> > We do BIT() stuff for e.g. VM_HIGH_ARCH_n, VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT,
> > VM_ALLOW_ANY_UNCACHED_BIT, VM_DROPPABLE_BIT and VM_SEALED_BIT too and no such
> > helpers there, So not sure if this is required?
> >
> > Alice - why is it these 'non-trivial' defines were fine but VM_MERGEABLE was
> > problematic? That seems strange.
> >
> > I see [0], so let me build rust here and see if it moans, if it moans I'll add
> > it.
> >
> > [0]:https://lore.kernel.org/oe-kbuild-all/CANiq72kOhRdGtQe2UVYmDLdbw6VNkiMtdFzkQizsfQV0gLY1Hg@mail.gmail.com/
>
> When you use #define to declare a constant whose right-hand-side
> contains a function-like macro such as BIT(), bindgen does not define a
> Rust version of that constant. However, VM_MAYBE_GUARD is not referenced
> in Rust anywhere, so that isn't a problem.
>
> It was a problem with VM_MERGEABLE because rust/kernel/mm/virt.rs
> references it.
>
> Note that it's only the combination of #define and function-like macro
> that triggers this condition. If the constant is defined using another
> mechanism such as enum {}, then bindgen will generate the constant no
> matter how complex the right-hand-side is. The problem is that bindgen
> can't tell whether a #define is just a constant or not.
>
> Alice
Thanks, I guess we can update as we go as rust needs. Or I can do a big update
as part of my VMA flag series respin?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-07 9:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-06 10:46 [PATCH v2 0/5] introduce VM_MAYBE_GUARD and make it sticky Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: introduce VM_MAYBE_GUARD and make visible in /proc/$pid/smaps Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 11:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-06 13:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 14:27 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-11-06 14:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 14:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-07 9:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-11-07 9:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-11-07 12:12 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-11-07 12:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: add atomic VMA flags, use VM_MAYBE_GUARD as such Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 11:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-06 14:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 14:45 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-11-06 15:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: implement sticky, copy on fork VMA flags Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 13:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-06 14:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 14:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-06 15:03 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-11-06 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] tools/testing/vma: add VMA sticky userland tests Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-06 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] selftests/mm/guard-regions: add smaps visibility test Lorenzo Stoakes
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