From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>, Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/45] hugetlb pagewalk unification
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:15:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f01c613-9e4f-47b6-af2b-09aa90437d90@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zo5v_hefrYFImqBC@localhost.localdomain>
>> (as a side note, cont-pte/cont-pmd should primarily be a hint from arch code
>> on how many entries we can batch, like we do in folio_pte_batch(); point is
>> that we want to batch also on architectures where we don't have such bits,
>> and prepare for architectures that implement various sizes of batching;
>> IMHO, having cont-pte/cont-pmd checks in common code is likely the wrong
>> approach. Again, folio_pte_batch() is where we tackled the problem
>> differently from the THP perspective)
>
> I must say I did not check folio_pte_batch() and I am totally ignorant
> of what/how it does things.
> I will have a look.
>
>> I have an idea for a better page table walker API that would try batching
>> most entries (under one PTL), and walkers can just register for the types
>> they want. Hoping I will find some time to at least scetch the user
>> interface soon.
>>
>> That doesn't mean that this should block your work, but the
>> cont-pte/cont/pmd hugetlb stuff is really nasty to handle here, and I don't
>> particularly like where this is going.
>
> Ok, let me take a step back then.
> Previous versions of that RFC did not handle cont-{pte-pmd} wide in the
> open, so let me go back to the drawing board and come up with something
> that does not fiddle with cont- stuff in that way.
>
> I might post here a small diff just to see if we are on the same page.
>
> As usual, thanks a lot for your comments David!
Feel free to reach out to discuss ways forward. I think we should
(a) move to the automatic cont-pte setting as done for THPs via
set_ptes().
(b) Batching PTE updates at all relevant places, so we get no change in
behavior: cont-pte bit will remain set.
(c) Likely remove the use of cont-pte bits in hugetlb code for anything
that is not a present folio (i.e., where automatic cont-pte bit
setting would never set it). Migration entries might require
thought (we can easily batch to achieve the same thing, but the
behavior of hugetlb likely differs to the generic way of handling
migration entries on multiple ptes: reference the folio vs.
the respective subpages of the folio).
Then we are essentially replacing what the current hugetlb_ functions do
by the common way it is being done for THP (which does not exist for
cont-pmd yet ... ). The only real alternative is special casing hugetlb
all over the place to still call the hugetlb_* functions.
:( it would all be easier without that hugetlb cont-pte/cont-pmd usage.
CCing Ryan so he's aware.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
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2024-07-04 4:30 Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 01/45] arch/x86: Drop own definition of pgd,p4d_leaf Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 02/45] mm: Add {pmd,pud}_huge_lock helper Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 15:02 ` Peter Xu
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 03/45] mm/pagewalk: Move vma_pgtable_walk_begin and vma_pgtable_walk_end upfront Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 04/45] mm/pagewalk: Only call pud_entry when we have a pud leaf Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 05/45] mm/pagewalk: Enable walk_pmd_range to handle cont-pmds Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 15:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-05 16:56 ` kernel test robot
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 06/45] mm/pagewalk: Do not try to split non-thp pud or pmd leafs Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 07/45] arch/s390: Enable __s390_enable_skey_pmd to handle hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 08/45] fs/proc: Enable smaps_pmd_entry to handle PMD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 09/45] mm: Implement pud-version functions for swap and vm_normal_page_pud Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 10/45] fs/proc: Create smaps_pud_range to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 11/45] fs/proc: Enable smaps_pte_entry to handle cont-pte mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 10:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 4:30 ` [PATCH 12/45] fs/proc: Enable pagemap_pmd_range to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 13/45] mm: Implement pud-version uffd functions Oscar Salvador
2024-07-05 15:48 ` kernel test robot
2024-07-05 15:48 ` kernel test robot
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 14/45] fs/proc: Create pagemap_pud_range to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 15/45] fs/proc: Adjust pte_to_pagemap_entry for " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 16/45] fs/proc: Enable pagemap_scan_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 17/45] mm: Implement pud-version for pud_mkinvalid and pudp_establish Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 18/45] fs/proc: Create pagemap_scan_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 19/45] fs/proc: Enable gather_pte_stats to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 20/45] fs/proc: Enable gather_pte_stats to handle cont-pte mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 21/45] fs/proc: Create gather_pud_stats to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb pages Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 22/45] mm/mempolicy: Enable queue_folios_pmd to handle hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 23/45] mm/mempolicy: Create queue_folios_pud to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 24/45] mm/memory_failure: Enable check_hwpoisoned_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 25/45] mm/memory-failure: Create check_hwpoisoned_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 26/45] mm/damon: Enable damon_young_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 27/45] mm/damon: Create damon_young_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 28/45] mm/damon: Enable damon_mkold_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 11:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 29/45] mm/damon: Create damon_mkold_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 30/45] mm,mincore: Enable mincore_pte_range to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 31/45] mm/mincore: Create mincore_pud_range to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 32/45] mm/hmm: Enable hmm_vma_walk_pmd, to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 33/45] mm/hmm: Enable hmm_vma_walk_pud to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 34/45] arch/powerpc: Skip hugetlb vmas in subpage_mark_vma_nohuge Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 35/45] arch/s390: Skip hugetlb vmas in thp_split_mm Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 36/45] fs/proc: Make clear_refs_test_walk skip hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 37/45] mm/lock: Make mlock_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 38/45] mm/madvise: Make swapin_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 39/45] mm/madvise: Make madvise_cold_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 40/45] mm/madvise: Make madvise_free_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 41/45] mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_vma_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 42/45] mm/memcontrol: Make mem_cgroup_move_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 43/45] mm/memcontrol: Make mem_cgroup_count_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 44/45] mm/hugetlb_vmemmap: Make vmemmap_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 4:31 ` [PATCH 45/45] mm: Delete all hugetlb_entry entries Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 10:13 ` [PATCH 00/45] hugetlb pagewalk unification Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 10:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 14:30 ` Peter Xu
2024-07-04 15:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 16:43 ` Peter Xu
2024-07-08 8:18 ` Oscar Salvador
2024-07-08 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10 3:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-10 11:26 ` Oscar Salvador
2024-07-11 0:15 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-07-11 4:48 ` Oscar Salvador
2024-07-11 4:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-08 14:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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