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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v1] mm: add a total mapcount for large folios
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:16:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ec6c371-c183-a8aa-614b-a23abbf3b233@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNVPJ9xxd2oarR3I@x1n>

>> Okay, so your speculation right now is:
>>
>> 1) The change in cacheline might be problematic.
>>
>> 2) The additional atomic operation might be problematic.
>>
>>> then measure the split (by e.g. mprotect() at offset 1M on a 4K?) time it
>>> takes before/after this patch.
>>
>> I can certainly try getting some numbers on that. If you're aware of other
>> micro-benchmarks that would likely notice slower pte-mapping of THPs, please
>> let me know.
> 
> Thanks.

If I effectively only measure the real PTE->PMD remapping (only measure 
the for loop that mprotects() one 4k page inside each of 512 THPs ) 
without any of the mmap+populate+munmap, I can certainly measure a real 
difference.

I briefly looked at some perf data across the overall benchmark runtime.

For page_remove_rmap(), the new atomic_dec() doesn't seem to be 
significant. Data indicates that it's significantly less relevant than a 
later atomic_add_negative().

For page_add_anon_rmap(), it's a bit fuzzy. Definitely, the 
atomic_inc_return_relaxed(mapped) seems to stick out, but I cannot rule 
out that the atomic_add() also plays a role.


The PTE->PMD remapping effectively does (__split_huge_pmd_locked())

for (i = 0, addr = haddr; i < HPAGE_PMD_NR; i++, addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
	...
	page_add_anon_rmap(page + i, vma, addr, RMAP_NONE);
	...
}
...
page_remove_rmap(page, vma, true);


Inside that loop we're repeatedly accessing the total_mapcount and 
_nr_pages_mapped. So my best guess would have been that both are already 
hot in the cache.

RMAP batching certainly sounds like a good idea for 
__split_huge_pmd_locked(), independent of this patch.


What would probably also interesting is observing happens when we unmap 
a single PTE of a THP and we cannot batch, to see if the 
page_remove_rmap() matters in the bigger scale.

I'll do some more digging tomorrow to clarify some details. Running some 
kernel compile tests with thp=always at least didn't reveal any 
surprises so far.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-10 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09  8:32 David Hildenbrand
2023-08-09 15:45 ` Zi Yan
2023-08-09 19:07 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-09 19:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 10:40     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-10 11:14     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 11:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 11:32         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 11:35           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-09 19:21   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-09 19:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10  3:14       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-09 21:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10  3:25   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-10  8:37     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 21:48       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 21:54         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-10 21:59           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:03             ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 15:14               ` Zi Yan
2023-08-11 15:17               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10  8:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 10:48     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-10 17:15       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 17:47         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 19:02           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-10 20:57           ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 21:48             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-10 22:27               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:18                 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 15:32                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:58                     ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 16:08                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:11                         ` Zi Yan
2023-08-11 22:18                           ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 22:16             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-08-10  3:24 ` Yin Fengwei

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