From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: pkeys on POWER: Default AMR, UAMOR values
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 07:15:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e39d75a-c862-205b-1ba2-6843488d7fcd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180519005219.GI5479@ram.oc3035372033.ibm.com>
On 05/19/2018 02:52 AM, Ram Pai wrote:
>>> The POWER semantics make it very hard for a multithreaded program to
>>> meaningfully use protection keys to prevent accidental access to important
>>> memory.
>>
>> And you can change access rights for unallocated keys (unallocated
>> at thread start time, allocated later) on x86. I have extended the
>> misc/tst-pkeys test to verify that, and it passes on x86, but not on
>> POWER, where the access rights are stuck.
>
> This is something I do not understand. How can a thread change permissions
> on a key, that is not even allocated in the first place.
It was allocated by another thread, and there is synchronization so that
the allocation happens before the change in access rights.
> Do you consider a key
> allocated in some other thread's context, as allocated in this threads
> context?
Yes, x86 does that.
> If not, does that mean -- On x86, you can activate a key just
> by changing its permission?
This also true on x86, but just an artifact of the implementation. You
are supposed to call pkey_alloc before changing the flag.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-19 5:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-18 13:17 Florian Weimer
2018-05-18 14:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-18 17:44 ` Ram Pai
2018-05-18 19:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-18 21:13 ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-19 0:52 ` Ram Pai
2018-05-19 5:15 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2018-05-18 21:09 ` Florian Weimer
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