From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
david@redhat.com, derkling@google.com, junaids@google.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/21] x86/mm/asi: set up asi_nonsensitive_pgd
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:39:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0dbdd1ff-bf23-4306-bace-97f745800c13@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DD80BJMZM5EF.4V737FVJY4F3@google.com>
On 10/2/25 10:19, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Thu Oct 2, 2025 at 4:14 PM UTC, Dave Hansen wrote:
...>> What is the point of having a pgd if you can't put it in CR3? If you:
>>
>> write_cr3(asi_nonsensitive_pgd);
>>
>> you'll just triple fault because all kernel text is !_PAGE_PRESENT.
>>
>> The critical point is when 'asi_nonsensitive_pgd' is functional enough
>> that it can be loaded into CR3 and handle a switch to the normal
>> init_mm->pgd.
>
> Hm, are you saying that I should expand the scope of the patchset from
> "set up the direct map" to "set up an ASI address space"? If so, yeah I
> can do that, I don't think the patchset would get that much bigger. I
> only left the other bits out because it feels weird to set up a whole
> address space but never actually switch into it. Setting up the logic to
> switch into it would make the patchset really big though.
The patch set has to _do_ something, though. It's fine for a patch
series to add code that then gets turned on at the end of the series.
But, at the end of the series, it has to have something to show for it.
If the series is small *and* useful, all the better. But, if I have to
choose between small or useful, it's always going to be useful.
> Like I said in the cover letter, I could also always change tack:
> we could instead start with all the address-space switching logic, but
> just have the two address spaces be clones of each other. Then we could
> come back and start poking holes in the ASI one for the second series. I
> don't have a really strong opinion about the best place to start, but
> I'll stick to my current course unless someone else does have a strong
> opinion.
Yeah, but the end of the series has to have holes poked that are
marginally useful for *SOMETHING*, at least if anyone wants it applied.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-12 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-24 14:59 [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/21] x86/mm/asi: Add CONFIG_MITIGATION_ADDRESS_SPACE_ISOLATION Brendan Jackman
2025-10-24 22:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-24 23:32 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 9:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/21] x86/mm/asi: add X86_FEATURE_ASI and asi= Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 10:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:24 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:15 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 03/21] x86/mm: factor out phys_pgd_init() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-27 19:29 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 12:26 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 11:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:29 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:36 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 04/21] x86/mm/asi: set up asi_nonsensitive_pgd Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:28 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:05 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:19 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-12 19:39 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2025-11-11 14:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-11 17:53 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 05/21] x86/mm/pat: mirror direct map changes to ASI Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 20:50 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:31 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:40 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:08 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 06/21] mm/page_alloc: add __GFP_SENSITIVE and always set it Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 21:18 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:34 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 07/21] mm: introduce for_each_free_list() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 08/21] mm: rejig pageblock mask definitions Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 09/21] mm/page_alloc: Invert is_check_pages_enabled() check Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 10/21] mm/page_alloc: remove ifdefs from pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 11/21] mm: introduce freetype_t Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:15 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 21:20 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:39 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 12/21] mm/asi: encode sensitivity in freetypes and pageblocks Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 13/21] mm/page_alloc_test: unit test pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 14/21] x86/mm/pat: introduce cpa_fault option Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 15/21] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_NON_BLOCK back to _HARDER Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 16/21] mm/page_alloc: introduce ALLOC_NOBLOCK Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 17/21] mm/slub: defer application of gfp_allowed_mask Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 18/21] mm/asi: support changing pageblock sensitivity Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 19/21] mm/asi: bad_page() when ASI mappings are wrong Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 20/21] x86/mm/asi: don't use global pages when ASI enabled Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 21/21] mm: asi_test: smoke test for [non]sensitive page allocs Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 17:51 ` [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-30 19:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2025-10-01 7:12 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 19:54 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-01 20:22 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-01 20:30 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 11:05 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:59 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 7:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-02 11:23 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 17:01 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 19:19 ` Brendan Jackman
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