From: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Joel Savitz <jsavitz@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
Christoph von Recklinghausen <crecklin@redhat.com>,
Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
"Herton R . Krzesinski" <herton@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
Andre Almeida <andrealmeid@collabora.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] mm/oom_kill.c: futex: Close a race between do_exit and the oom_reaper
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 21:09:46 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d0fb94a-ff66-ac31-e126-0eaf4dca0d6a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220322025724.j3japdo5qocwgchz@offworld>
On 3/21/22 20:57, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022, Nico Pache wrote:
>
>> We could proceed with the V3 approach; however if we are able to find a complete
>> solution that keeps both functionalities (Concurrent OOM Reaping & Robust Futex)
>> working, I dont see why we wouldnt go for it.
>
> Because semantically killing the process is, imo, the wrong thing to do. My
> performance argument before however is bogus as the overhead of robust futexes
> is pretty negligible within the lifetime of a lock. That said, the users still
> have good(?) reasons for not wanting the lock holder to crash on them.
From my understanding, the whole point of the robust futex is to allow forward
progress in an application in which the lock holder CAN crash/exit/oom. So
semantically nothing is wrong with killing the futex holder... the whole point
of the robustness is to handle these cases. We just have a case were the oom
killer is racing with said handling of the futex, invalidating the memory before
the exit path (handle_futex_death) can awake one of the other waiters.
-- Nico
>
> Thanks,
> Davidlohr
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-22 3:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-18 3:36 Nico Pache
2022-03-21 8:55 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-21 22:45 ` Nico Pache
[not found] ` <20220322004231.rwmnbjpq4ms6fnbi@offworld>
2022-03-22 1:53 ` Nico Pache
[not found] ` <20220322025724.j3japdo5qocwgchz@offworld>
2022-03-22 3:09 ` Nico Pache [this message]
2022-03-22 8:26 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-22 15:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-22 16:36 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-22 22:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-23 9:17 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-23 10:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-23 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-30 9:18 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-30 18:18 ` Nico Pache
2022-03-30 21:36 ` Nico Pache
2022-04-06 17:22 ` Nico Pache
2022-04-06 17:36 ` Nico Pache
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=0d0fb94a-ff66-ac31-e126-0eaf4dca0d6a@redhat.com \
--to=npache@redhat.com \
--cc=aarcange@redhat.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=andrealmeid@collabora.com \
--cc=aquini@redhat.com \
--cc=bhe@redhat.com \
--cc=crecklin@redhat.com \
--cc=dave@stgolabs.net \
--cc=ddutile@redhat.com \
--cc=dvhart@infradead.org \
--cc=herton@redhat.com \
--cc=jsavitz@redhat.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=longman@redhat.com \
--cc=mhocko@suse.com \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=rientjes@google.com \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox