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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: Retry migration earlier upon refcount mismatch
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:05:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d049ec4-ab39-441b-8560-5613f3527473@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04e12698-8f83-4033-91b2-3a402c59c17a@redhat.com>


On 8/11/24 14:38, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 11.08.24 08:06, Dev Jain wrote:
>>
>> On 8/11/24 00:22, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 10.08.24 20:42, Dev Jain wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 8/9/24 19:17, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> On 09.08.24 12:31, Dev Jain wrote:
>>>>>> As already being done in __migrate_folio(), wherein we backoff if 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> folio refcount is wrong, make this check during the unmapping phase,
>>>>>> upon
>>>>>> the failure of which, the original state of the PTEs will be 
>>>>>> restored
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the folio lock will be dropped via migrate_folio_undo_src(), any
>>>>>> racing
>>>>>> thread will make progress and migration will be retried.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     mm/migrate.c | 9 +++++++++
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/migrate.c b/mm/migrate.c
>>>>>> index e7296c0fb5d5..477acf996951 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/migrate.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/migrate.c
>>>>>> @@ -1250,6 +1250,15 @@ static int migrate_folio_unmap(new_folio_t
>>>>>> get_new_folio,
>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>           if (!folio_mapped(src)) {
>>>>>> +        /*
>>>>>> +         * Someone may have changed the refcount and maybe sleeping
>>>>>> +         * on the folio lock. In case of refcount mismatch, bail 
>>>>>> out,
>>>>>> +         * let the system make progress and retry.
>>>>>> +         */
>>>>>> +        struct address_space *mapping = folio_mapping(src);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        if (folio_ref_count(src) != folio_expected_refs(mapping,
>>>>>> src))
>>>>>> +            goto out;
>>>>>
>>>>> This really seems to be the latest point where we can "easily" back
>>>>> off and unlock the source folio -- in this function :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if we should be smarter in the migrate_pages_batch() loop
>>>>> when we start the actual migrations via migrate_folio_move(): if we
>>>>> detect that a folio has unexpected references *and* it has waiters
>>>>> (PG_waiters), back off then and retry the folio later. If it only has
>>>>> unexpected references, just keep retrying: no waiters -> nobody is
>>>>> waiting for the lock to make progress.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The patch currently retries migration irrespective of the reason of
>>>> refcount change.
>>>>
>>>> If you are suggesting that, break the retrying according to two
>>>> conditions:
>>>
>>> That's not what I am suggesting ...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This really seems to be the latest point where we can "easily" back
>>>>> off and unlock the source folio -- in this function :)
>>>>> For example, when migrate_folio_move() fails with -EAGAIN, check if
>>>>> there are waiters (PG_waiter?) and undo+unlock to try again later.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Currently, on -EAGAIN, migrate_folio_move() returns without undoing 
>>>> src
>>>> and dst; even if we were to fall
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I am wondering if we should detect here if there are waiters and undo
>>> src+dst.
>>
>> After undoing src+dst, which restores the PTEs, how are you going to 
>> set the
>>
>> PTEs to migration again? That is being done through 
>> migrate_folio_unmap(),
>>
>> and the loops of _unmap() and _move() are different. Or am I missing
>> something...
>
> Again, no expert on the code, but it would mean that if we detect that 
> there are waiters, we would undo src+dst and add them to ret_folios, 
> similar to what we do in "Cleanup remaining folios" at the end of 
> migrate_pages_batch()?
>
> So instead of retrying migration of that folio, just give it up 
> immediately and retry again later.
>
> Of course, this means that (without further modifications to that 
> function), we would leave retrying these folios to the caller, such as 
> in migrate_pages_sync(), where we move ret_folios to the tail of 
> "folios" and retry migration.

So IIUC, you are saying to change the return value in 
__folio_migrate_mapping(), so that when move_to_new_folio() fails

in migrate_folio_move(), we end up in the retrying loop of _sync() which 
calls _batch() in synchronous mode. Here, we

will have to make a change to decide how much we want to retry?

>
>
> Maybe one would want to optimize that retry logic with such 
> "temporarily failed because someone else has to make progress for us 
> to make progress and free up a page reference" case. These are 
> different to the typical "speculative" references that we try to 
> handle via the existing retry magic.
>
> Please let me know if I am missing something fundamental.
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-12  5:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-09 10:31 [PATCH 0/2] Improve migration by backing off earlier Dev Jain
2024-08-09 10:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Retry migration earlier upon refcount mismatch Dev Jain
2024-08-09 13:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09 21:09     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-08-10 18:42     ` Dev Jain
2024-08-10 18:52       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-11  6:06         ` Dev Jain
2024-08-11  9:08           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-12  5:35             ` Dev Jain [this message]
2024-08-12  9:30               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-10 21:05     ` Zi Yan
2024-08-12  5:34   ` Huang, Ying
2024-08-12  6:01     ` Dev Jain
2024-08-12  6:15       ` Huang, Ying
2024-08-12  6:52         ` Dev Jain
2024-08-12  7:31           ` Huang, Ying
2024-08-12 12:08             ` Dev Jain
2024-08-13  5:00               ` Dev Jain
2024-08-13  7:22                 ` Dev Jain
2024-08-16 11:31                   ` Dev Jain
2024-08-19  6:58                     ` Huang, Ying
2024-08-20  7:16                       ` Dev Jain
2024-09-02  6:42                         ` Huang, Ying
2024-08-12  6:13     ` Dev Jain
2024-08-12  6:20       ` Huang, Ying
2024-08-12  6:32         ` Dev Jain
2024-08-09 10:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/mm: Do not fail test for a single migration failure Dev Jain
2024-08-09 17:13   ` Shuah Khan
2024-08-09 21:10     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-08-12  6:19     ` Dev Jain

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