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From: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] fs: drop_caches: introduce per-node drop_caches interface
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 21:00:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0cc07f96-641a-43e1-b90d-641962d9459d@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95bc0034-a72b-449c-9be4-b691fd03dc1e@huawei.com>



On 4/9/2026 8:50 PM, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/9/2026 6:52 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> On Thu 09-04-26 16:54:48, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2026 4:22 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>> On Thu 09-04-26 16:08:37, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>> To use the reclaim interface, there are two differences,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) we need to input the reclaim numbers and swappiness, this is not 
>>>>> a big
>>>>> problem
>>>>> 2) for reclaim, it supports swappiness=max to only reclaim 
>>>>> anonymous pages,
>>>>> but cannot only reclaim file pages,
>>>>
>>>> Why is 2) a real constrain?
>>>
>>> This should not be a restriction, but a strategy. Our product wants to
>>> migrate anonymous pages to the local instead of swapping them out. 
>>> However,
>>> the current per-node-reclaim interface does not support reclaiming 
>>> only file
>>> pages.
>>
>> Yes, I do understand that you want to keep your hot anonymous pages
>> resident on some node. Those shouldn't be reclaimed by the user space
>> triggered reclaim anyway, right? Migration will then happen during the
>> memory offlining.
> 
> Yes, that we need.
>>
>> This will certainly require some fine tuning but I do not see any reason
>> this should be completely impossible. Certainly a more robust way (from
>> API POV) than the suggested drop_caches. I am also not convinced we need
>> page-cache-only reclaim for the existing reclaim interface. I believe it
>> makes more sense to look at the reclaim from hotness POV rather than
>> anon vs. file.
> 
> It is already support only reclaim file pages when swappiness = 0 for
> memcg.reclaim, but not for per-node-reclaim, so we can just make a few
> small changes to enable it(no tested)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 84eba9ab5d25..46254ae9b8df 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -2515,7 +2515,7 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, 
> struct scan_control *sc,
>           * using the memory controller's swap limit feature would be
>           * too expensive.
>           */
> -       if (cgroup_reclaim(sc) && !swappiness) {
> +       if ((cgroup_reclaim(sc) || sc->proactive) && !swappiness) {
>                  scan_balance = SCAN_FILE;
>                  goto out;
>          }
> 

Sorry, the changes below are incorrect,please ignore.

> or
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 84eba9ab5d25..e2998b61f78b 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -2515,7 +2515,7 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, 
> struct scan_control *sc,
>           * using the memory controller's swap limit feature would be
>           * too expensive.
>           */
> -       if (cgroup_reclaim(sc) && !swappiness) {
> +       if (sc->proactive && !swappiness) {
>                  scan_balance = SCAN_FILE;
>                  goto out;
>          }
> 
> 
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-09  6:35 Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  7:06 ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09  7:19   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09  8:21     ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  8:27       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09  8:08   ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  8:22     ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09  8:54       ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09 10:52         ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09 12:50           ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09 13:00             ` Kefeng Wang [this message]
2026-04-09 13:01             ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09 13:45               ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  8:30     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 15:16     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-09 19:41       ` Michal Hocko

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