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That ~1 week between "we merged" and "-rc1" is a nice >> time to go through that material and add it to mm-new. I think it >> smooths things out. I mean, this is peak time for people to be >> considering the new material? > > I'm confused, why is the merge window a good time to consider new material? > > People have the entirety of the cycle to submit new material, and they do > so. My view is that if you are sending a cleanup/feature during the merge window you cannot expect a fast reply, and you should not keep sending new versions in that timeframe expecting that all people you CCed that should have a look actually did have a look. -- Cheers David / dhildenb