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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: warn potential return NULL for kmalloc_array and kvmalloc_array with __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:34:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b75bace-d054-40fa-998d-8d895b146f54@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zp4I1r7AsthU2pY4@tiehlicka>

On 7/22/24 9:23 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 20-07-24 08:36:16, Barry Song wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 9:30 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri 19-07-24 21:02:10, Barry Song wrote:
>> > > what about an earlier WARN_ON, for example, even before we begin to
>> > > try the allocation?
>> >
>> > Page allocator is a hot path and adding checks for something that
>> > shouldn't really even exist is not a great addition there IMHO.
>> 
>> I would argue adding checks for something that shouldn't really
>> even exist is precisely the point of having those checks. These
>> checks help ensure the integrity and robustness of the system
>> by catching unexpected conditions. I agree that the page allocator
>> is a hot path, but adding one line might not cause noticeable
>> overhead, especially considering that alloc_pages() already
>> contains a few hundred lines of code.
> 
> We do not add stuff like that into hot path.

It should be acceptable with CONFIG_DEBUG_VM. Or in __alloc_pages_slowpath()
it could be placed higher even without CONFIG_DEBUG_VM. Right now it's
rather hard to reach, espcially for GPF_ATOMIC.

> 
>> Regardless, let me try to summarize the discussions. Unless
>> anyone has better ideas, v2 series might start with the following
>> actions:
>> 
>> 1. Update the documentation for GFP_NOFAIL to explicitly state
>> that non-wait GFP_NOFAIL is not legal and should be avoided.
>> This will provide a basis for other subsystems to explicitly
>> reject anyone using GFP_ATOMIC | GFP_NOFAIL, etc.
> 
> No objection to that.
> 
>> 2. Add BUG_ON() at the existing points where we return NULL
>> for GFP_NOFAIL -  __alloc_pages_slowpath() , kmalloc, vmalloc
>> to avoid exposing security vulnerabilities.
> 
> Let's see how this goes.

In __alloc_pages_noprof() we also have

        if (WARN_ON_ONCE_GFP(order > MAX_PAGE_ORDER, gfp))
                return NULL;

This should BUG_ON for __GFP_NOFAIL, same as the overflowing kmalloc_array().

> 
>> 3. Raise a bug report to the vdpa maintainer, requesting that they
>> either drop GFP_ATOMIC or GFP_NOFAIL based on whether
>> their context is atomic. If GFP_NOFAIL is dropped, ask for an
>> explicit check on the return value.

You could do it right now, based on the warning we have although it's hard
to reach.

> GPF_ATOMIC is likely used because of write_lock(&domain->bounce_lock)
> vduse_domain_remove_user_bounce_pages is iself called with spin lock held
> from vduse_domain_release. So you would need some pre-allocation.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-22  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-17 23:00 Barry Song
2024-07-18  6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  7:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18  7:12     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  8:16       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18  7:22   ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  7:27     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  7:41       ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  7:53         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  8:18           ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  8:32             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18  8:43               ` Barry Song
2024-07-18  8:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  0:35                   ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  7:02                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  7:07                       ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  7:42                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  7:51                           ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  8:01                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  8:28                               ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  8:40                                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  9:36                                   ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  9:45                                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  9:58                                       ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 10:57                                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:05                                           ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 11:19                                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19  8:50                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19  9:33                                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 10:10                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 10:52                                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:13                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 11:26                                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 13:02                                           ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 13:30                                             ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-20  0:36                                               ` Barry Song
2024-07-22  7:23                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22  7:34                                                   ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-07-19  7:37                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-19  7:43                         ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  7:53                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-20 22:14                             ` Barry Song
2024-07-22  7:26                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22  8:09                                 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22  9:01                                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 23:18                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-22 23:22                                       ` Barry Song
2024-07-19  8:35                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18  7:48 ` Hailong Liu
2024-07-18  8:33   ` Barry Song

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