From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Chris Kennelly <ckennelly@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Hugepage collapse in process context
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:43:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b51a213-650e-7801-b6ed-9545466c15db@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YCzSDPbBsksCX5zP@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 2/17/21 9:21 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [Cc linux-api]
>
> On Tue 16-02-21 20:24:16, David Rientjes wrote:
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> Khugepaged is slow by default, it scans at most 4096 pages every 10s.
>> That's normally fine as a system-wide setting, but some applications would
>> benefit from a more aggressive approach (as long as they are willing to
>> pay for it).
>>
>> Instead of adding priorities for eligible ranges of memory to khugepaged,
>> temporarily speeding khugepaged up for the whole system, or sharding its
>> work for memory belonging to a certain process, one approach would be to
>> allow userspace to induce hugepage collapse.
>>
>> The benefit to this approach would be that this is done in process context
>> so its cpu is charged to the process that is inducing the collapse.
>> Khugepaged is not involved.
>
> Yes, this makes a lot of sense to me.
>
>> Idea was to allow userspace to induce hugepage collapse through the new
>> process_madvise() call. This allows us to collapse hugepages on behalf of
>> current or another process for a vectored set of ranges.
>
> Yes, madvise sounds like a good fit for the purpose.
Agreed on both points.
>> This could be done through a new process_madvise() mode *or* it could be a
>> flag to MADV_HUGEPAGE since process_madvise() allows for a flag parameter
>> to be passed. For example, MADV_F_SYNC.
>
> Would this MADV_F_SYNC be applicable to other madvise modes? Most
> existing madvise modes do not seem to make much sense. We can argue that
> MADV_PAGEOUT would guarantee the range was indeed reclaimed but I am not
> sure we want to provide such a strong semantic because it can limit
> future reclaim optimizations.
>
> To me MADV_HUGEPAGE_COLLAPSE sounds like the easiest way forward.
I guess in the old madvise(2) we could create a new combo of MADV_HUGEPAGE |
MADV_WILLNEED with this semantic? But you are probably more interested in
process_madvise() anyway. There the new flag would make more sense. But there's
also David H.'s proposal for MADV_POPULATE and there might be benefit in
considering both at the same time? Should e.g. MADV_POPULATE with MADV_HUGEPAGE
have the collapse semantics? But would MADV_POPULATE be added to
process_madvise() as well? Just thinking out loud so we don't end up with more
flags than necessary, it's already confusing enough as it is.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-18 13:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-17 4:24 David Rientjes
2021-02-17 8:21 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 13:43 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2021-02-18 13:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 22:34 ` David Rientjes
2021-02-19 16:16 ` Zi Yan
2021-02-24 9:44 ` Alex Shi
2021-03-01 20:56 ` David Rientjes
2021-03-04 10:52 ` Alex Shi
2021-02-17 15:49 ` Zi Yan
2021-02-18 8:11 ` Song Liu
2021-02-18 8:39 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 9:53 ` Song Liu
2021-02-18 10:01 ` Michal Hocko
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