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From: Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: <hughd@google.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<david@redhat.com>, <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, <baohua@kernel.org>,
	<baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>, <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
	<peterx@redhat.com>, <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	<wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: control mthp per process/cgroup
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:26:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a7fc0ab-cc45-8829-dd7f-9265e5d2752c@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ac1e404-a531-a380-7a2f-6adae4640da6@huawei.com>

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On 2024/8/19 13:58, Nanyong Sun wrote:
> On 2024/8/17 2:15, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 05:13:27PM +0800, Nanyong Sun wrote:
>>> Now the large folio control interfaces is system wide and tend to be
>>> default on: file systems use large folio by default if supported,
>>> mTHP is tend to default enable when boot [1].
>>> When large folio enabled, some workloads have performance benefit,
>>> but some may not and some side effects can happen: the memory usage
>>> may increase, direct reclaim maybe more frequently because of more
>>> large order allocations, result in cpu usage also increases. We observed
>>> this on a product environment which run nginx, the pgscan_direct count
>>> increased a lot than before, can reach to 3000 times per second, and
>>> disable file large folio can fix this.
>> Can you share any details of your nginx workload that shows a regression?
>> The heuristics for allocating large folios are completely untuned, so
>> having data for a workload which performs better with small folios is
>> very valuable.
>>
>> .
> The RPS//(Requests per second) which is the performance metric of 
> nginx workload has no
> regression(also no improvement),we just observed that pgscan_direct 
> rate is much higher
> with large folio.
> So far, we have tested some workloads' benchmark, some did not have 
> performance improvement
> but also did not have regression.
> In a production environment, different workloads may be deployed on a 
> machine. Therefore,
> do we need to add a process/cgroup level control to prevent workloads 
> that will not have
> performance improvement from using mTHP? In this way, the memory 
> overhead and direct reclaim
> caused by mTHP can be avoided for those process/cgroup.
Sorry to disturb, just a friendly ping : )

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-26  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-16  9:13 Nanyong Sun
2024-08-16 18:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-19  5:58   ` Nanyong Sun
2024-08-26  2:26     ` Nanyong Sun [this message]
2024-09-02  9:36     ` Baolin Wang
2024-09-02 13:33       ` David Hildenbrand

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