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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] mm/mseal: update madvise() logic
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 19:44:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a2e43d6-9015-4cab-87d0-d6caa97d966f@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABi2SkVuS21VgXXB80bs20=fg6+Bqm_LfQjknZhqRMGYYv7-BA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 11:41:15AM -0700, Jeff Xu wrote:
> Hi Lorenzo,
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 10:54 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
> > Thanks, that's a good question.
> >
> > So for a function to be mmap()'d and file-backed, vm_ops _must_ be
> > supplied.
> >
> This says that all file-backed mappings must have vm_ops set, but what
> about the reverse? Are mappings with vm_ops always file-backed?

Yes? Otherwise they'd get treated as anonymous?

We call this vma_is_anonymous() for a reason ;)

>
> > You can see this in the fault-handler:
> >
> > do_pte_mising()
> > -> do_fault()
> > if anon -> fault anon otherwise fault file-backed
> >
> > So if this were not the case, you'd have file-backed mappings going into
> > the the anonymous fault handler logic.
> >
> > This covers off MAP_PRIVATE mappings of file-backed mappings too, as this
> > is handled in do_fault() by:
> >
> >         } else if (!(vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE))
> >                 ret = do_read_fault(vmf);
> >         else if (!(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
> >                 ret = do_cow_fault(vmf);
> >
> > That does the CoW fault handling.
> >
> > So the vma_is_anonymous_check() here should have the same semantics.
> >
> Just to be extra careful, does the reverse hold true as well?
>
> In anycase, if you are confident about this, please do state this
> change in the commit description that vma->vm_file and VM_SHARED flag
> check is replaced by vma_is_anonymous_check(), which is expected to be
> a non-functional change.

It's functionally equivalent and can be seen in the diff so I don't think
this is necessary.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-25  8:29 [PATCH v4 0/5] mseal cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm/mseal: always define VM_SEALED Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm/mseal: update madvise() logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 17:28   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 17:53     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 18:41       ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 18:44         ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] mm/mseal: small cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] mm/mseal: simplify and rename VMA gap check Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 17:30   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 17:43     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 18:09       ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 18:15         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 19:32         ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-25 18:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25 18:22         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 18:26         ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 18:41   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 19:34   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] mm/mseal: rework mseal apply logic Lorenzo Stoakes

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