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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Sayali Patil <sayalip@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	 Venkat Rao Bagalkote <venkat88@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/13] selftests/mm: ensure destination is hugetlb-backed in hugepage-mremap
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:05:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a1befae-1037-4bbe-b976-352ef4607d2a@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86889304-c450-491c-8c06-48ca9c973531@kernel.org>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 09:33:29AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 4/1/26 22:39, Sayali Patil wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 01/04/26 20:10, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 04:21:55PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >>
> >> OK so digging in:
> >>
> >> mremap -> ... -> vrm_set_new_addr() -> get_unmapped_area() -> ... (in
> >> ppc arch
> >> code) -> slice_get_unmapped_area():
> >>
> >> unsigned long slice_get_unmapped_area(unsigned long addr, unsigned
> >> long len,
> >>                       unsigned long flags, unsigned int psize,
> >>                       int topdown)
> >> {
> >>     ...
> >>     /* bunch of checks */
> >>
> >>     /* If we have MAP_FIXED and failed the above steps, then error out */
> >>     if (fixed)
> >>         return -EBUSY;
> >>
> >>     ...
> >> }
> >>
> >> Is presumably where we hit the issue.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> That is weird. An mremap(MREMAP_FIXED) is really just an munmap() +
> >>> move.
> >>
> >> Yeah the weird bit I guess is that we _still_ invoke
> >> get_unmapped_area() but
> >> with MAP_FIXED set to indicate that we want the specific address, so it's
> >> subject to the above checks.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Are we sure this is not some actual problem in the hugetlb
> >>> implementation?
> >>
> >> It seems the 'slices' check sees if the _target address_ has an
> >> equivalent page
> >> size, presumably hugetlb-mandated, and fails if they're not
> >> equivalent, so this
> >> change is just accounting for that.
> >>
> > Yes, this change accounts for that by ensuring the destination is
> > created with MAP_HUGETLB so it has the same page size as the source.
>
> Okay, weird, so it's the right thing to do to cover all odd arch behavior.
>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But then the test suddenly requires more hugetlb pages, no? I don't see
> >>> a good reason for the MAP_POPULATE, really. It will be discarded
> >>> either way.
> >>
> >> Yeah I'm not sure about the MAP_POPULATE being all that important here.
> >>
> > As far as I understand, without MAP_POPULATE, memory accesses would
> > trigger userfaults, and since the test is single-threaded and has no
> > background handler for the uffd, it would deadlock. MAP_POPULATE ensures
> > the test runs correctly by prefaulting all pages, but please let me know
> > if I’m mistaken.
>
> So you are saying the test would deadlock if you are not adding
> MAP_POPULATE? If so, please double check if that is actually the case.
>
> And if it's actually the case, please carefully document that in the
> patch description, and probably as a comment above the MAP_POPULATE usage.

Do keep in mind MAP_POPULATE is not _guaranteed_ to work :)

For guaranteed populate you need madvise(..., MADV_POPULATE_[READ/WRITE]) or to
directly fault in.

>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David

Cheers, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27  7:15 [PATCH v3 00/13] selftests/mm: fix failures and robustness improvements Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] selftests/mm: restore default nr_hugepages value during cleanup in charge_reserved_hugetlb.sh Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:52   ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 16:05     ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] selftests/mm: fix hugetlb pathname construction " Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:06   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] selftests/mm: fix hugetlb pathname construction in hugetlb_reparenting_test.sh Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:06   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] selftest/mm: fix cgroup task placement and drop memory.current checks " Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:08   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-03 19:59     ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] selftests/mm: size tmpfs according to PMD page size in split_huge_page_test Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 16:20   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] selftest/mm: adjust hugepage-mremap test size for large huge pages Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 20:45     ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] selftest/mm: register existing mapping with userfaultfd in hugepage-mremap Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 14:43     ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  7:31       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-03 17:41         ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] selftests/mm: ensure destination is hugetlb-backed " Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:21   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 14:40     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-04-01 20:39       ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  7:33         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-02  9:05           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) [this message]
2026-04-03 17:41             ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-07 10:22               ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] selftests/mm: skip uffd-wp-mremap if UFFD write-protect is unsupported Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  6:59   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] selftests/mm: skip uffd-stress test when nr_pages_per_cpu is zero Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:23   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] selftests/mm: fix double increment in linked list cleanup in compaction_test Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:32   ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:39     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 17:33       ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] selftests/mm: move hwpoison setup into run_test() and silence modprobe output for memory-failure category Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  7:15   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] selftests/cgroup: extend test_hugetlb_memcg.c to support all huge page sizes Sayali Patil
2026-04-03 17:16   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27 18:11 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] selftests/mm: fix failures and robustness improvements Andrew Morton
2026-03-30  5:57   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-30 22:11     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-01 14:05       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 15:03       ` Sayali Patil

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