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From: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] vmalloc_exec for modules and BPF programs
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 06:55:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0F9AE244-8747-4533-8AFD-6E1810225CD2@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YwRo43EBIWh7++Qn@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>



> On Aug 22, 2022, at 10:42 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 04:56:47PM +0000, Song Liu wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:34 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 03:46:38PM +0000, Song Liu wrote:
>>>> Could you please share your feedback on this? 
>>> 
>>> I've looked at it all of 5 minutes, so perhaps I've missed something.
>>> 
>>> However, I'm a little surprised you went with a second tree instead of
>>> doing the top-down thing for data. The way you did it makes it hard to
>>> have guard pages between text and data.
>> 
>> I didn't realize the importance of the guard pages. But it is not too
> 
> I'm not sure how important it is, just seems like a good idea to trap
> anybody trying to cross that divide. Also, to me it seems like a good
> idea to have a single large contiguous text region instead of splintered
> 2M pages.

A single large contiguous text region is great. However, it is not easy to
keep it contiguous. For example, when we load a big module, and then unload
it. It is not easy to recycle the space. Say we load module-x-v1, which is 
4MB, and uses 2 huge pages. Then we load a small BPF program after it. The 
address space looks like:

MODULE_VADDR to MODULE_VADDR + 4MB:			module-x-v1
MODULE_VADDR + 4MB to MODULE_VADDR + 4MB + 4kB:		bpf_prog_xxxx

When we unload module-x-v1, there will be 4MB hole in the address space. 
If we then load module-x-v2, which is 4.1MB in size, we cannot reuse that
hole, because the module is a little too big for the hole. 

AFAICT, to use the space efficiently, we will have to deal with splintered
2MB pages. 

Does this make sense?

Thanks,
Song

> 
>> hard to do it with this approach. For each 2MB text page, we can reserve
>> 4kB on the beginning and end of it. Would this work?
> 
> Typically a guard page has different protections (as in none what so
> ever) so that every access goes *splat*.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-23  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-18 22:42 Song Liu
2022-08-18 22:42 ` [RFC 1/5] vmalloc: introduce vmalloc_exec and vfree_exec Song Liu
2022-10-06 23:15   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-10-07  6:39     ` Song Liu
2022-08-18 22:42 ` [RFC 2/5] bpf: use vmalloc_exec Song Liu
2022-08-18 22:42 ` [RFC 3/5] modules, x86: use vmalloc_exec for module core Song Liu
2022-10-06 23:38   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-10-07  6:46     ` Song Liu
2022-08-18 22:42 ` [RFC 4/5] vmalloc_exec: share a huge page with kernel text Song Liu
2022-10-06 23:44   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-10-07  6:53     ` Song Liu
2022-08-18 22:42 ` [RFC 5/5] vmalloc: vfree_exec: free unused vm_struct Song Liu
2022-08-22 15:46 ` [RFC 0/5] vmalloc_exec for modules and BPF programs Song Liu
2022-08-22 16:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-22 16:56     ` Song Liu
2022-08-23  5:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-23  6:39         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-08-23  6:57           ` Song Liu
2022-08-23  6:55         ` Song Liu [this message]
2022-08-24 17:06       ` Song Liu

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