From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jordan Niethe <jniethe@nvidia.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<balbirs@nvidia.com>, <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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<rcampbell@nvidia.com>, <mpenttil@redhat.com>, <jgg@nvidia.com>,
<willy@infradead.org>, <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
<intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>, <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
<Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/11] mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 22:09:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0C16A79F-5A7B-4358-9806-7F78E7EA8EE6@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBBD65CA-A8F2-40AC-AFA0-FC95CBDB3DF5@nvidia.com>
On 22 Jan 2026, at 22:06, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2026, at 21:02, Alistair Popple wrote:
>
>> On 2026-01-21 at 10:06 +1100, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> wrote...
>>> On 20 Jan 2026, at 18:02, Jordan Niethe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 21/1/26 09:53, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>> On 20 Jan 2026, at 17:33, Jordan Niethe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/1/26 07:04, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7 Jan 2026, at 4:18, Jordan Niethe wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently when creating these device private struct pages, the first
>>>>>>>> step is to use request_free_mem_region() to get a range of physical
>>>>>>>> address space large enough to represent the devices memory. This
>>>>>>>> allocated physical address range is then remapped as device private
>>>>>>>> memory using memremap_pages().
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Needing allocation of physical address space has some problems:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) There may be insufficient physical address space to represent the
>>>>>>>> device memory. KASLR reducing the physical address space and VM
>>>>>>>> configurations with limited physical address space increase the
>>>>>>>> likelihood of hitting this especially as device memory increases. This
>>>>>>>> has been observed to prevent device private from being initialized.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) Attempting to add the device private pages to the linear map at
>>>>>>>> addresses beyond the actual physical memory causes issues on
>>>>>>>> architectures like aarch64 meaning the feature does not work there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of using the physical address space, introduce a device private
>>>>>>>> address space and allocate devices regions from there to represent the
>>>>>>>> device private pages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Introduce a new interface memremap_device_private_pagemap() that
>>>>>>>> allocates a requested amount of device private address space and creates
>>>>>>>> the necessary device private pages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To support this new interface, struct dev_pagemap needs some changes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Add a new dev_pagemap::nr_pages field as an input parameter.
>>>>>>>> - Add a new dev_pagemap::pages array to store the device
>>>>>>>> private pages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When using memremap_device_private_pagemap(), rather then passing in
>>>>>>>> dev_pagemap::ranges[dev_pagemap::nr_ranges] of physical address space to
>>>>>>>> be remapped, dev_pagemap::nr_ranges will always be 1, and the device
>>>>>>>> private range that is reserved is returned in dev_pagemap::range.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forbid calling memremap_pages() with dev_pagemap::ranges::type =
>>>>>>>> MEMORY_DEVICE_PRIVATE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Represent this device private address space using a new
>>>>>>>> device_private_pgmap_tree maple tree. This tree maps a given device
>>>>>>>> private address to a struct dev_pagemap, where a specific device private
>>>>>>>> page may then be looked up in that dev_pagemap::pages array.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Device private address space can be reclaimed and the assoicated device
>>>>>>>> private pages freed using the corresponding new
>>>>>>>> memunmap_device_private_pagemap() interface.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because the device private pages now live outside the physical address
>>>>>>>> space, they no longer have a normal PFN. This means that page_to_pfn(),
>>>>>>>> et al. are no longer meaningful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Introduce helpers:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - device_private_page_to_offset()
>>>>>>>> - device_private_folio_to_offset()
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to take a given device private page / folio and return its offset within
>>>>>>>> the device private address space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Update the places where we previously converted a device private page to
>>>>>>>> a PFN to use these new helpers. When we encounter a device private
>>>>>>>> offset, instead of looking up its page within the pagemap use
>>>>>>>> device_private_offset_to_page() instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Update the existing users:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - lib/test_hmm.c
>>>>>>>> - ppc ultravisor
>>>>>>>> - drm/amd/amdkfd
>>>>>>>> - gpu/drm/xe
>>>>>>>> - gpu/drm/nouveau
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to use the new memremap_device_private_pagemap() interface.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jordan Niethe <jniethe@nvidia.com>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOTE: The updates to the existing drivers have only been compile tested.
>>>>>>>> I'll need some help in testing these drivers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> v1:
>>>>>>>> - Include NUMA node paramater for memremap_device_private_pagemap()
>>>>>>>> - Add devm_memremap_device_private_pagemap() and friends
>>>>>>>> - Update existing users of memremap_pages():
>>>>>>>> - ppc ultravisor
>>>>>>>> - drm/amd/amdkfd
>>>>>>>> - gpu/drm/xe
>>>>>>>> - gpu/drm/nouveau
>>>>>>>> - Update for HMM huge page support
>>>>>>>> - Guard device_private_offset_to_page and friends with CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> v2:
>>>>>>>> - Make sure last member of struct dev_pagemap remains DECLARE_FLEX_ARRAY(struct range, ranges);
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Documentation/mm/hmm.rst | 11 +-
>>>>>>>> arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv_uvmem.c | 41 ++---
>>>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdkfd/kfd_migrate.c | 23 +--
>>>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_dmem.c | 35 ++--
>>>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_svm.c | 28 +---
>>>>>>>> include/linux/hmm.h | 3 +
>>>>>>>> include/linux/leafops.h | 16 +-
>>>>>>>> include/linux/memremap.h | 64 +++++++-
>>>>>>>> include/linux/migrate.h | 6 +-
>>>>>>>> include/linux/mm.h | 2 +
>>>>>>>> include/linux/rmap.h | 5 +-
>>>>>>>> include/linux/swapops.h | 10 +-
>>>>>>>> lib/test_hmm.c | 69 ++++----
>>>>>>>> mm/debug.c | 9 +-
>>>>>>>> mm/memremap.c | 193 ++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>>>>> mm/mm_init.c | 8 +-
>>>>>>>> mm/page_vma_mapped.c | 19 ++-
>>>>>>>> mm/rmap.c | 43 +++--
>>>>>>>> mm/util.c | 5 +-
>>>>>>>> 19 files changed, 391 insertions(+), 199 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>>>>> index e65329e1969f..b36599ab41ba 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>>>>>> @@ -2038,6 +2038,8 @@ static inline unsigned long memdesc_section(memdesc_flags_t mdf)
>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>> static inline unsigned long folio_pfn(const struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> + VM_BUG_ON(folio_is_device_private(folio));
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please use VM_WARN_ON instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> return page_to_pfn(&folio->page);
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/rmap.h b/include/linux/rmap.h
>>>>>>>> index 57c63b6a8f65..c1561a92864f 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/rmap.h
>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/rmap.h
>>>>>>>> @@ -951,7 +951,7 @@ static inline unsigned long page_vma_walk_pfn(unsigned long pfn)
>>>>>>>> static inline unsigned long folio_page_vma_walk_pfn(const struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> if (folio_is_device_private(folio))
>>>>>>>> - return page_vma_walk_pfn(folio_pfn(folio)) |
>>>>>>>> + return page_vma_walk_pfn(device_private_folio_to_offset(folio)) |
>>>>>>>> PVMW_PFN_DEVICE_PRIVATE;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> return page_vma_walk_pfn(folio_pfn(folio));
>>>>>>>> @@ -959,6 +959,9 @@ static inline unsigned long folio_page_vma_walk_pfn(const struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> static inline struct page *page_vma_walk_pfn_to_page(unsigned long pvmw_pfn)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> + if (pvmw_pfn & PVMW_PFN_DEVICE_PRIVATE)
>>>>>>>> + return device_private_offset_to_page(pvmw_pfn >> PVMW_PFN_SHIFT);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> return pfn_to_page(pvmw_pfn >> PVMW_PFN_SHIFT);
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/page_vma_mapped.c b/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>>>>>>>> index 96c525785d78..141fe5abd33f 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -107,6 +107,7 @@ static bool map_pte(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw, pmd_t *pmdvalp,
>>>>>>>> static bool check_pte(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw, unsigned long pte_nr)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> unsigned long pfn;
>>>>>>>> + bool device_private = false;
>>>>>>>> pte_t ptent = ptep_get(pvmw->pte);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if (pvmw->flags & PVMW_MIGRATION) {
>>>>>>>> @@ -115,6 +116,9 @@ static bool check_pte(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw, unsigned long pte_nr)
>>>>>>>> if (!softleaf_is_migration(entry))
>>>>>>>> return false;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> + if (softleaf_is_migration_device_private(entry))
>>>>>>>> + device_private = true;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> pfn = softleaf_to_pfn(entry);
>>>>>>>> } else if (pte_present(ptent)) {
>>>>>>>> pfn = pte_pfn(ptent);
>>>>>>>> @@ -127,8 +131,14 @@ static bool check_pte(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw, unsigned long pte_nr)
>>>>>>>> return false;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pfn = softleaf_to_pfn(entry);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> + if (softleaf_is_device_private(entry))
>>>>>>>> + device_private = true;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> + if ((device_private) ^ !!(pvmw->pfn & PVMW_PFN_DEVICE_PRIVATE))
>>>>>>>> + return false;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> if ((pfn + pte_nr - 1) < (pvmw->pfn >> PVMW_PFN_SHIFT))
>>>>>>>> return false;
>>>>>>>> if (pfn > ((pvmw->pfn >> PVMW_PFN_SHIFT) + pvmw->nr_pages - 1))
>>>>>>>> @@ -137,8 +147,11 @@ static bool check_pte(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw, unsigned long pte_nr)
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /* Returns true if the two ranges overlap. Careful to not overflow. */
>>>>>>>> -static bool check_pmd(unsigned long pfn, struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw)
>>>>>>>> +static bool check_pmd(unsigned long pfn, bool device_private, struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> + if ((device_private) ^ !!(pvmw->pfn & PVMW_PFN_DEVICE_PRIVATE))
>>>>>>>> + return false;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> if ((pfn + HPAGE_PMD_NR - 1) < (pvmw->pfn >> PVMW_PFN_SHIFT))
>>>>>>>> return false;
>>>>>>>> if (pfn > (pvmw->pfn >> PVMW_PFN_SHIFT) + pvmw->nr_pages - 1)
>>>>>>>> @@ -255,6 +268,8 @@ bool page_vma_mapped_walk(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if (!softleaf_is_migration(entry) ||
>>>>>>>> !check_pmd(softleaf_to_pfn(entry),
>>>>>>>> + softleaf_is_device_private(entry) ||
>>>>>>>> + softleaf_is_migration_device_private(entry),
>>>>>>>> pvmw))
>>>>>>>> return not_found(pvmw);
>>>>>>>> return true;
>>>>>>>> @@ -262,7 +277,7 @@ bool page_vma_mapped_walk(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw)
>>>>>>>> if (likely(pmd_trans_huge(pmde))) {
>>>>>>>> if (pvmw->flags & PVMW_MIGRATION)
>>>>>>>> return not_found(pvmw);
>>>>>>>> - if (!check_pmd(pmd_pfn(pmde), pvmw))
>>>>>>>> + if (!check_pmd(pmd_pfn(pmde), false, pvmw))
>>>>>>>> return not_found(pvmw);
>>>>>>>> return true;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to me that you can add a new flag like “bool is_device_private” to
>>>>>>> indicate whether pfn is a device private index instead of pfn without
>>>>>>> manipulating pvmw->pfn itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could do it like that, however my concern with using a new param was that
>>>>>> storing this info seperately might make it easier to misuse a device private
>>>>>> index as a regular pfn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seemed like it could be easy to overlook both when creating the pvmw and
>>>>>> then when accessing the pfn.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why I asked for a helper function like page_vma_walk_pfn(pvmw) to
>>>>> return the converted pfn instead of pvmw->pfn directly. You can add a comment
>>>>> to ask people to use helper function and even mark pvmw->pfn /* do not use
>>>>> directly */.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah I agree that is a good idea.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, your patch manipulates pfn by left shifting it by 1. Are you sure
>>>>> there is no weird arch having pfns with bit 63 being 1? Your change could
>>>>> break it, right?
>>>>
>>>> Currently for migrate pfns we left shift by pfns by MIGRATE_PFN_SHIFT (6), so I
>>>> thought doing something similiar here should be safe.
>>>
>>> Yeah, but that limits to archs supporting HMM. page_vma_mapped_walk is used
>>> by almost every arch, so it has a broader impact.
>>
>> We need to be a bit careful by what we mean when we say "HMM" in the kernel.
>>
>> Specifically MIGRATE_PFN_SHIFT is used with migrate_vma/migrate_device, which
>> is the migration half of "HMM" which does depend on CONFIG_DEVICE_MIGRATION or
>> really just CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE making it somewhat arch specific.
>>
>> However hmm_range_fault() does something similar - see the definition of
>> hmm_pfn_flags - it actually steals the top 11 bits of a pfn for flags, and it is
>> not architecture specific. It only depends on CONFIG_MMU.
>
> Oh, that is hacky. But are HMM PFNs with any flag exposed to code outside HMM?
> Currently, device private needs to reserve PFNs for struct page, so I assume
> only the reserved PFNs are seen by outsiders. Otherwise, when outsiders see
> a HMM PFN with a flag, pfn_to_page() on such a PFN will read non exist
> struct page, right?
>
> For this page_vma_mapped_walk code, it is manipulating PFNs used by everyone,
> not just HMM, and can potentially (might be very rare) alter their values
> after shifts.
> And if an HMM PFN with HMM_PFN_VALID is processed by the code,
> the HMM PFN will lose HMM_PFN_VALID bit. So I guess HMM PFN is not showing
> outside HMM code.
Oops, this code is removing PFN reservation mechanism, so please ignore
the above two sentences.
>
>>
>> Now I'm not saying this implies it actually works on all architectures as I
>> agree the page_vma_mapped_walk code is used much more widely. Rather I'm just
>> pointing out if there are issues with some architectures using high PFN bits
>> then we likely have a problem here too :-)
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Yan, Zi
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 9:18 [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from " Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] mm/migrate_device: Introduce migrate_pfn_from_page() helper Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:03 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:49 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 21:03 ` Kuehling, Felix
2026-01-09 22:47 ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] drm/amdkfd: Use migrate pfns internally Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 22:00 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:56 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_device_{pfns,range}() take mpfns Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] mm/migrate_device: Add migrate PFN flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:01 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:41 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] mm/page_vma_mapped: Add flags to page_vma_mapped_walk::pfn " Jordan Niethe
2026-01-13 19:44 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:37 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 22:49 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:52 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mm: Add helpers to create migration entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: Add a new swap type for migration entries of device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-12 1:00 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] mm: Add helpers to create device private entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] mm/util: Add flag to track device private pages in page snapshots Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] mm/hmm: Add flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space Jordan Niethe
2026-01-13 20:04 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:33 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 22:53 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 23:02 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 23:06 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 23:34 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-21 2:41 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-21 4:04 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-22 6:24 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-23 2:02 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-23 3:06 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-23 3:09 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2026-01-23 5:38 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-23 13:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-07 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from " Matthew Brost
2026-01-07 20:21 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-08 2:25 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 5:42 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 0:01 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 0:31 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-09 1:27 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 6:22 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-14 5:41 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-23 6:25 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-07 20:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-07 21:02 ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-08 1:29 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08 1:08 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-08 1:49 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08 2:55 ` Jordan Niethe
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