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From: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
To: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/12] mm: introduce generic lazy_mmu helpers
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2025 14:50:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07ffb66d-1e74-4634-bccb-75575b3862af-agordeev@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251124132228.622678-7-kevin.brodsky@arm.com>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 01:22:22PM +0000, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> The implementation of the lazy MMU mode is currently entirely
> arch-specific; core code directly calls arch helpers:
> arch_{enter,leave}_lazy_mmu_mode().
> 
> We are about to introduce support for nested lazy MMU sections.
> As things stand we'd have to duplicate that logic in every arch
> implementing lazy_mmu - adding to a fair amount of logic
> already duplicated across lazy_mmu implementations.
> 
> This patch therefore introduces a new generic layer that calls the
> existing arch_* helpers. Two pair of calls are introduced:
> 
> * lazy_mmu_mode_enable() ... lazy_mmu_mode_disable()
>     This is the standard case where the mode is enabled for a given
>     block of code by surrounding it with enable() and disable()
>     calls.
> 
> * lazy_mmu_mode_pause() ... lazy_mmu_mode_resume()
>     This is for situations where the mode is temporarily disabled
>     by first calling pause() and then resume() (e.g. to prevent any
>     batching from occurring in a critical section).
> 
> The documentation in <linux/pgtable.h> will be updated in a
> subsequent patch.
> 
> No functional change should be introduced at this stage.
> The implementation of enable()/resume() and disable()/pause() is
> currently identical, but nesting support will change that.
> 
> Most of the call sites have been updated using the following
> Coccinelle script:
> 
> @@
> @@
> {
> ...
> - arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
> + lazy_mmu_mode_enable();
> ...
> - arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
> + lazy_mmu_mode_disable();
> ...
> }
> 
> @@
> @@
> {
> ...
> - arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
> + lazy_mmu_mode_pause();
> ...
> - arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode();
> + lazy_mmu_mode_resume();
> ...
> }
> 
> A couple of notes regarding x86:
> 
> * Xen is currently the only case where explicit handling is required
>   for lazy MMU when context-switching. This is purely an
>   implementation detail and using the generic lazy_mmu_mode_*
>   functions would cause trouble when nesting support is introduced,
>   because the generic functions must be called from the current task.
>   For that reason we still use arch_leave() and arch_enter() there.
> 
> * x86 calls arch_flush_lazy_mmu_mode() unconditionally in a few
>   places, but only defines it if PARAVIRT_XXL is selected, and we
>   are removing the fallback in <linux/pgtable.h>. Add a new fallback
>   definition to <asm/pgtable.h> to keep things building.

Would it make sense to explicitly describe the policy wrt sleeping while
in lazy MMU mode? If I understand the conclusion of conversation right:

* An arch implementation may disable preemption, but then it is arch
  responsibility not to call any arch-specific code that might sleep;
* As result, while in lazy MMU mode the generic code should never
  call a code that might sleep;

1. https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/b52726c7-ea9c-4743-a68d-3eafce4e5c61@arm.com/

> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>
...


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-28 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-24 13:22 [PATCH v5 00/12] Nesting support for lazy MMU mode Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] powerpc/64s: Do not re-activate batched TLB flush Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] x86/xen: simplify flush_lazy_mmu() Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-04  3:36   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] powerpc/mm: implement arch_flush_lazy_mmu_mode() Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] sparc/mm: " Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] mm: introduce CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_LAZY_MMU_MODE Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-01  6:21   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-12-03  8:19     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] mm: introduce generic lazy_mmu helpers Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-28 13:50   ` Alexander Gordeev [this message]
2025-12-03  8:20     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-04  4:17   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-12-05 12:47     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] mm: bail out of lazy_mmu_mode_* in interrupt context Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 14:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-04  4:34   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] mm: enable lazy_mmu sections to nest Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 14:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-27 12:33   ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-11-27 12:45     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-28 13:55   ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-12-03  8:20     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-04  5:25       ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-12-04 11:53         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-04  6:23   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-12-04 11:52     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-05 12:50       ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-12-05 12:56     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] arm64: mm: replace TIF_LAZY_MMU with in_lazy_mmu_mode() Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 14:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-04  6:52   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-12-04 11:39     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] powerpc/mm: replace batch->active " Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] sparc/mm: " Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] x86/xen: use lazy_mmu_state when context-switching Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-24 14:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-25 13:39   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-12-03 16:08 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Nesting support for lazy MMU mode Venkat
2025-12-05 13:00   ` Kevin Brodsky

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