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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, ankita@nvidia.com
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 5/6] KVM: arm64: Allow cacheable stage 2 mapping using VMA flags
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 16:13:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07e0fddd-76ba-4905-95f4-b98063215866@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250704140431.GH1410929@nvidia.com>

On 04.07.25 16:04, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 04:21:10AM +0000, ankita@nvidia.com wrote:
>> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
>> @@ -1681,18 +1681,53 @@ static int user_mem_abort(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, phys_addr_t fault_ipa,
>>   	if (is_error_noslot_pfn(pfn))
>>   		return -EFAULT;
>>   
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Check if this is non-struct page memory PFN, and cannot support
>> +	 * CMOs. It could potentially be unsafe to access as cachable.
>> +	 */
>>   	if (vm_flags & (VM_PFNMAP | VM_MIXEDMAP) && !pfn_is_map_memory(pfn)) {
>>   		/*
>> -		 * If the page was identified as device early by looking at
>> -		 * the VMA flags, vma_pagesize is already representing the
>> -		 * largest quantity we can map.  If instead it was mapped
>> -		 * via __kvm_faultin_pfn(), vma_pagesize is set to PAGE_SIZE
>> -		 * and must not be upgraded.
>> -		 *
>> -		 * In both cases, we don't let transparent_hugepage_adjust()
>> -		 * change things at the last minute.
>> +		 * COW VM_PFNMAP is possible when doing a MAP_PRIVATE
>> +		 * /dev/mem mapping on systems that allow such mapping.
>> +		 * Reject such case.
>>   		 */
>> -		s2_force_noncacheable = true;
>> +		if (is_cow_mapping(vm_flags))
>> +			return -EINVAL;
> 
> I still would like an explanation why we need to block this.
> 
> COW PFNMAP is like MIXEDMAP, you end up with a VMA where there is a
> mixture of MMIO and normal pages. Arguably you are supposed to use
> vm_normal_page() not pfn_is_map_memory(), but that seems difficult for
> KVM.
> 
> Given we exclude the cachable case with the pfn_is_map_memory() we
> know this is the non-struct page memory already, so why do we need to
> block the COW?
> 
> I think the basic rule we are going for is that within the VMA the
> non-normal/special PTE have to follow the vma->vm_pgprot while the
> normal pages have to be cachable.
> 
> So if we find a normal page (ie pfn_is_map_memory()) then we know it
> is cachable and s2_force_noncacheable = false. Otherwise we use the
> vm_pgprot to decide if the special PTE is cachable.
> 
> David can you think of any reason to have this is_cow_mapping() test?

I think with that reasoning, it should be fine to drop it.

I think, the COW test made sense when we were talking about limiting it 
to VM_PFNMAP only and simplifying by dropping other checks. Then, it 
would have identified that something is certainly not "normal" memory.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-21  4:21 [PATCH v9 0/6] KVM: arm64: Map GPU device memory as cacheable ankita
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] KVM: arm64: Rename the device variable to s2_force_noncacheable ankita
2025-07-04 13:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 13:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] KVM: arm64: Update the check to detect device memory ankita
2025-07-04 13:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:02   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] KVM: arm64: Block cacheable PFNMAP mapping ankita
2025-06-27 13:49   ` Will Deacon
2025-06-30  1:56     ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-06-30 12:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 12:21         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 16:04           ` Will Deacon
2025-07-04 16:47             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-08 12:47               ` Will Deacon
2025-07-04 13:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] KVM: arm64: New function to determine hardware cache management support ankita
2025-07-04 13:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] KVM: arm64: Allow cacheable stage 2 mapping using VMA flags ankita
2025-07-04 14:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:13     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-07-04 16:51       ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] KVM: arm64: Expose new KVM cap for cacheable PFNMAP ankita
2025-07-04 13:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:15     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 15:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 16:20         ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-04 16:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-27  5:03 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] KVM: arm64: Map GPU device memory as cacheable Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-02  9:33 ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-02 16:51   ` Donald Dutile

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