From: Pedro Demarchi Gomes <pedrodemargomes@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Xu Xin <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
craftfever <craftfever@airmail.cc>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] ksm: use range-walk function to jump over holes in scan_get_next_rmap_item
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 22:48:52 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07cd9c09-2a4f-48d5-845f-0c958b7b45d0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f42b7b67-7de4-4a7b-8074-25ca87a952a6@redhat.com>
On 10/22/25 17:52, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 22.10.25 22:31, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 12:30:59 -0300 Pedro Demarchi Gomes <pedrodemargomes@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Currently, scan_get_next_rmap_item() walks every page address in a VMA
>>> to locate mergeable pages. This becomes highly inefficient when scanning
>>> large virtual memory areas that contain mostly unmapped regions.
>>>
>>> This patch replaces the per-address lookup with a range walk using
>>> walk_page_range(). The range walker allows KSM to skip over entire
>>> unmapped holes in a VMA, avoiding unnecessary lookups.
>>> This problem was previously discussed in [1].
>>>
>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/423de7a3-1c62-4e72-8e79-19a6413e420c@redhat.com/
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. It would be helpful of the changelog were to tell people how
>> significant this change is for our users.
>>
>>> Reported-by: craftfever <craftfever@airmail.cc>
>>> Closes: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/020cf8de6e773bb78ba7614ef250129f11a63781@murena.io
>>
>> Buried in here is a claim that large amount of CPU are being used, but
>> nothing quantitative.
>>
>> So is there something we can tell people who are looking at this patch
>> in Feb 2026 and wondering "hm, should I add that to our kernel"?
>>
>>> Suggested-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>> Co-developed-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>> Fixes: 31dbd01f3143 ("ksm: Kernel SamePage Merging")
>>
>> If the observed runtime problem is bad enough then a cc:stable might be
>> justified. But a description of that observed runtime behavior would
>> be needed for that, please.
>
> Agreed.
>
> With the following simple program
>
> #include <unistd.h>
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <sys/mman.h>
>
> /* 32 TiB */
> const size_t size = 32ul * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024;
>
> int main() {
> char *area = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE,
> MAP_NORESERVE | MAP_PRIVATE | MAP_ANON, -1, 0);
>
> if (area == MAP_FAILED) {
> perror("mmap() failed\n");
> return -1;
> }
>
> /* Populate a single page such that we get an anon_vma. */
> *area = 0;
>
> /* Enable KSM. */
> madvise(area, size, MADV_MERGEABLE);
> pause();
> return 0;
> }
>
> $ ./ksm-sparse &
> $ echo 1 > /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run
>
> ksmd goes to 100% for quite a long time.
>
> Now imagine if a cloud user spins up a couple of these programs.
>
> KSM in the system is essentially deadlocked not able to deduplicate
> anything of value.
>
> @Pedro, can you incorporate all that in the patch description?
Ok, I will send a v5 with a better changelog and patch description.
Thanks!
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-23 1:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-22 15:30 Pedro Demarchi Gomes
2025-10-22 20:31 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-22 20:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-23 1:48 ` Pedro Demarchi Gomes [this message]
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