From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
<elver@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: fix a data race in put_page()
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:34:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <079c4429-8a11-154d-cf5c-473d2698d18d@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D022CBB0-C8EC-4F5A-A0B0-893AA7A014AA@lca.pw>
On 2/6/20 7:23 AM, Qian Cai wrote:
>
>
>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 9:55 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think the problem is real. The question is how to make KCSAN happy
>> in a way that doesn't silence other possibly useful things it can find and
>> also which makes it most obvious to the reader what's going on... IMHO
>> using READ_ONCE() fulfills these targets nicely - it is free
>> performance-wise in this case, it silences the checker without impacting
>> other races on page->flags, its kind of obvious we don't want the load torn
>> in this case so it makes sense to the reader (although a comment may be
>> nice).
>
> Actually, use the data_race() macro there fulfilling the same purpose too, i.e, silence the splat here but still keep searching for other races.
>
Yes, but both READ_ONCE() and data_race() would be saying untrue things about this code,
and that somewhat offends my sense of perfection... :)
* READ_ONCE(): this field need not be restricted to being read only once, so the
name is immediately wrong. We're using side effects of READ_ONCE().
* data_race(): there is no race on the N bits worth of page zone number data. There
is only a perceived race, due to tools that look at word-level granularity.
I'd propose one or both of the following:
a) Hope that Marcus has an idea to enhance KCSAN so as to support this model of
access, and/or
b) Add a new, better-named macro to indicate what's going on. Initial bikeshed-able
candidates:
READ_RO_BITS()
READ_IMMUTABLE_BITS()
...etc...
thanks,
--
John Hubbard
NVIDIA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-06 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-06 13:17 Qian Cai
2020-02-06 13:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-06 13:51 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-06 14:55 ` Jan Kara
2020-02-06 14:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-06 15:23 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-06 23:34 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2020-02-06 23:36 ` John Hubbard
2020-02-06 23:55 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-07 0:18 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-07 0:27 ` John Hubbard
2020-02-07 0:55 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-07 13:17 ` Marco Elver
2020-02-09 1:44 ` John Hubbard
2020-02-09 3:10 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-09 7:12 ` John Hubbard
2020-02-10 7:48 ` Marco Elver
2020-02-10 12:16 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-10 12:58 ` Marco Elver
2020-02-10 13:36 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-10 13:38 ` Marco Elver
2020-02-10 13:55 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-10 14:12 ` Marco Elver
2020-02-10 14:31 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-10 16:23 ` Qian Cai
2020-02-10 16:33 ` Marco Elver
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