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From: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG <s.priebe@profihost.ag>
To: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"n.fahldieck@profihost.ag" <n.fahldieck@profihost.ag>,
	Daniel Aberger - Profihost AG <d.aberger@profihost.ag>,
	p.kramme@profihost.ag
Subject: Re: No memory reclaim while reaching MemoryHigh
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:42:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06bc6218-810d-a912-935c-cb09d063ec3d@profihost.ag> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190725145355.GA7347@chrisdown.name>

Hi Chris,

Am 25.07.19 um 16:53 schrieb Chris Down:
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG writes:
>> While using kernel 4.19.55 and cgroupv2 i set a MemoryHigh value for a
>> varnish service.
>>
>> It happens that the varnish.service cgroup reaches it's MemoryHigh value
>> and stops working due to throttling.
> 
> In that kernel version, the only throttling we have is reclaim-based
> throttling (I also have a patch out to do schedule-based throttling, but
> it's not in mainline yet). If the application is slowing down, it likely
> means that we are struggling to reclaim pages.

Sounds interesting can you point me to a discussion or thread?


>> But i don't understand is that the process itself only consumes 40% of
>> it's cgroup usage.
>>
>> So the other 60% is dirty dentries and inode cache. If i issue an
>> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
>>
>> the varnish cgroup memory usage drops to the 50% of the pure process.
> 
> As a caching server, doesn't Varnish have a lot of hot inodes/dentries
> in memory? If they are hot, it's possible it's hard for us to evict them.

May be but they can't be that hot as what i would call hot. If you drop
caches the whole cgroup is only using ~ 1G extra memory even after hours.

>> I thought that the kernel would trigger automatic memory reclaim if a
>> cgroup reaches is memory high value to drop caches.
> 
> It does, that's the throttling you're seeing :-) I think more
> information is needed to work out what's going on here. For example:
> what do your kswapd counters look like?

Where do i find those?

> What does "stops working due to
> throttling" mean -- are you stuck in reclaim?

See the other mail to Michal - varnish does not respond and stack hangs
in handle_mm_fault.

I thought th kernel would drop fast the unneeded pagecache, inode and
dentries cache.

Thanks,
Stefan


      reply	other threads:[~2019-07-25 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25 13:17 Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2019-07-25 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-25 21:37   ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2019-07-26  7:45     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-26 18:30       ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2019-07-28 21:11         ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2019-07-28 21:39           ` Chris Down
2019-07-29  5:34             ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2019-07-29  7:07           ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2019-07-29  7:45             ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2019-07-31 13:03               ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-25 14:53 ` Chris Down
2019-07-25 21:42   ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG [this message]

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