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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Atanasov <alexander.atanasov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel@openvz.org,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: RFC [PATCH v4 2/7] Enable balloon drivers to report inflated memory
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 11:23:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <063efd58-8373-90ea-7c5e-9d0e9161d2ba@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ba328e5-3bc8-cb22-f00c-eddb8aea9a06@virtuozzo.com>

>>>> Sounds to me that all you want is some notifier to be called from
>>>> adjust_managed_page_count(). What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Notifier will act as an accumulator to report size of change and it will make things easier for the drivers and users wrt locking.
>>> Notifier is similar to the memory hotplug notifier.
>>
>> Overall, I am not convinced that there is any value of separating the value
>> and the notifier. You can batch both or not batch both. In addition, as I
>> mentioned, having two values seems racy.
> 
> I have identified two users so far above - may be more to come.
> One type needs the value to adjust. Also having the value is necessary
> to report it to users and oom. There are options with callbacks and so
> on but it will complicate things with no real gain. You are right about
> the atomicity but i guess if that's a problem for some user it could
> find a way to ensure it. i am yet to find such place.
> 

I haven't followed the whole discussion, but I just wanted to raise that 
having a generic mechanism to notify on such changes could be valuable.

For example, virtio-mem also uses adjust_managed_page_count() and might 
sometimes not trigger memory hotplug notifiers when adding more memory 
(essentially, when it fake-adds memory part of an already added Linux 
memory block).

What might make sense is schedule some kind of deferred notification on 
adjust_managed_page_count() changes. This way, we could notify without 
caring about locking and would naturally batch notifications.

adjust_managed_page_count() users would not require changes.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-11  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20221005090158.2801592-1-alexander.atanasov@virtuozzo.com>
2022-10-05  9:01 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] Make place for common balloon code Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-05  9:01 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] Enable balloon drivers to report inflated memory Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-05 17:25   ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-06  7:34     ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-06 21:07       ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-07 10:58         ` RFC " Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-10  6:18           ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-10  7:24             ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-10 14:47               ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-11  9:07                 ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-11  9:23                   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-10-14 12:50                     ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-14 13:01                       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-10-14 13:33                         ` Alexander Atanasov
2022-10-14 13:40                           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-10-14 14:10                             ` Alexander Atanasov

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