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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Christoph Hellwig' <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Steinar H. Gunderson" <sesse@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] Add support for usbfs zerocopy.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:22:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1CCC00A7@AcuExch.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160108094535.GA17286@infradead.org>

From: Christoph Hellwig
> Sent: 08 January 2016 09:46
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 10:35:05AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > Indeed, the I/O operations we are using with mmap here are not reads or
> > writes; they are ioctls.  As far as I know, the kernel doesn't have any
> > defined interface for zerocopy ioctls.
> 
> IF it was using mmap for I/O it would read in through the page fault
> handler an then mark the page dirty for writeback by the VM.  Thats
> clearly not the case.

Indeed, and never is the case when mmap() is processed by a
driver rather than a filesystem.

> Instead it's using mmap on a file as a pecial purpose anonymous
> memory allocator, bypassing the VM and VM policies, including
> allowing to pin kernel memory that way.

Opening a driver often allocates kernel memory, not a big deal.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-08 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20160106144512.GA21737@imap.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1601061032000.1579-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2016-01-08  9:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-08 10:22     ` David Laight [this message]
2016-01-08 16:02     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-01-12 21:26     ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2016-01-12 22:05       ` Alan Stern

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