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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Should this_cpu_read() be volatile?
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:11:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <058624AF-3933-4C44-A137-E33FC5180B86@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181210085532.GG5289@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

> On Dec 10, 2018, at 12:55 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 04:57:43PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 2:52 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
>>> My patch proposed here:
>>> 
>>> https://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=154409548410209
>>> 
>>> would actually fix that one I think, preempt_count() uses
>>> raw_cpu_read_4() which will loose the volatile with that patch.
> 
>> I tested the patch you referenced, and it certainly improves the situation
>> for reads, but there are still small and big issues lying around.
> 
> I'm sure :-(, this has been 'festering' for a long while it seems. And
> esp. on x86 specific code, where for a long time we all assumed the
> various per-cpu APIs were in fact the same (which turns out to very much
> not be true).
> 
>> The biggest one is that (I think) smp_processor_id() should apparently use
>> __this_cpu_read().
> 
> Agreed, and note that this will also improve code generation on !x86.
> 
> However, I'm not sure the current !debug definition:
> 
> #define smp_processor_id() raw_smp_processor_id()
> 
> is actually correct. Where raw_smp_processor_id() must be
> this_cpu_read() to avoid CSE, we actually want to allow CSE on
> smp_processor_id() etc..

Yes. That makes sense.

> 
>> There are all kind of other smaller issues, such as set_irq_regs() and
>> get_irq_regs(), which should run with disabled interrupts. They affect the
>> generated code in do_IRQ() and others.
>> 
>> But beyond that, there are so many places in the code that use
>> this_cpu_read() while IRQs are guaranteed to be disabled. For example
>> arch/x86/mm/tlb.c is full with this_cpu_read/write() and almost(?) all
>> should be running with interrupts disabled. Having said that, in my build
>> only flush_tlb_func_common() was affected.
> 
> This all feels like something static analysis could help with; such
> tools would also make sense for !x86 where the difference between the
> various per-cpu accessors is even bigger.

If something like that existed, it could also allow to get rid of
local_irq_save() (and use local_irq_disable() instead).

      reply	other threads:[~2018-12-11 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-28 14:01 Number of arguments in vmalloc.c Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-03 13:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-03 16:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-03 22:04     ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-03 22:49       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-04  3:12         ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-06  8:28           ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-06 10:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-06 11:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-06 17:26               ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-07  8:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-07 23:12                   ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-08  0:40                     ` Should this_cpu_read() be volatile? Nadav Amit
2018-12-08 10:52                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-10  0:57                         ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-10  8:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-11 17:11                             ` Nadav Amit [this message]

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