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From: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
To: dan.j.williams@intel.com, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, peterz@infradead.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Yasunori Gotou (Fujitsu)" <y-goto@fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kaslr: P2PDMA is one of a class of ZONE_DEVICE-KASLR collisions
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 18:11:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0569b41b-0d74-4237-b471-6994ddc42333@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <692e08b2516d4_261c1100a3@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch>



On 12/1/25 2:29 PM, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
> Dave Hansen wrote:
>> The subject probably wants to be something along the lines of:
>>
>> 	x86/kaslr: Recognize all ZONE_DEVICE users as physaddr consumers
> 
> ...works for me.
> 
>>
>> On 11/7/25 18:32, Dan Williams wrote:
>>> Commit 7ffb791423c7 ("x86/kaslr: Reduce KASLR entropy on most x86 systems")
>>> is too narrow. ZONE_DEVICE, in general, lets any physical address be added
>>> to the direct-map. I.e. not only ACPI hotplug ranges, CXL Memory Windows,
>>> or EFI Specific Purpose Memory, but also any PCI MMIO range for the
>>> CONFIG_DEVICE_PRIVATE and CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA cases.
>>
>> This should probably also mention the fact that:
>>
>> 	config PCI_P2PDMA
>> 		depends on ZONE_DEVICE
>>
>> It would also be nice to point out how the "too narrow" check had an
>> impact on real ZONE_DEVICE but !PCI_P2PDMA users. This isn't just a
>> theoretical problem, right?
> 
> Yasunori filled in a detail [1] that I did not have when creating the
> patch, specifically that when he enountered the CXL collision with KASLR
> he was running on a kernel before commit 7ffb791423c7 ("x86/kaslr:
> Reduce KASLR entropy on most x86 systems").
> 
> Either way, a pre-7ffb791423c7 kernel and a kernel with
> CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA=n would fail the same way. Yasunori confirmed that
> current kernel with CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA=y, or this patch solved the
> problem for him.
> 
> See below for a reworked patch with these changes.
> 
> [1]: http://lore.kernel.org/OS9PR01MB124215C4182B59D590049B99390CCA@OS9PR01MB12421.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com
>>
>>> A potential path to recover entropy would be to walk ACPI and determine the
>>> limits for hotplug and PCI MMIO before kernel_randomize_memory(). On
>>> smaller systems that could yield some KASLR address bits. This needs
>>> additional investigation to determine if some limited ACPI table scanning
>>> can happen this early without an open coded solution like
>>> arch/x86/boot/compressed/acpi.c needs to deploy.
>>
>> Yeah, a more flexible runtime solution would be highly preferred over
>> the existing solution built around config options. But this is really
>> orthogonal to the bug fix here.
>>
>> With the changelog fixes above:
>>
>> Acked-by: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
>>
>> Oh, and does this need to be cc:stable@?
> 
> Yes, especially because it would create a dependency on 7ffb791423c7
> also being backported and that would have helped Yasunori avoid this
> problem (for CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA=y builds at least).
> 
> -- >8 --
> From d2f4b9ac915ce35e2ec842548ae1ccb4f1690b04 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2025 15:13:50 -0800
> Subject: [PATCH v2] x86/kaslr: Recognize all ZONE_DEVICE users as physaddr
>  consumers
> 
> Commit 7ffb791423c7 ("x86/kaslr: Reduce KASLR entropy on most x86 systems")
> is too narrow. The effect being mitigated in that commit is caused by
> ZONE_DEVICE which PCI_P2PDMA has a dependency. ZONE_DEVICE, in general,
> lets any physical address be added to the direct-map. I.e. not only ACPI
> hotplug ranges, CXL Memory Windows, or EFI Specific Purpose Memory, but
> also any PCI MMIO range for the DEVICE_PRIVATE and PCI_P2PDMA cases. Update
> the mitigation, limit KASLR entropy, to apply in all ZONE_DEVICE=y cases.
> 
> Distro kernels typically have PCI_P2PDMA=y, so the practical exposure of
> this problem is limited to the PCI_P2PDMA=n case.
> 
> A potential path to recover entropy would be to walk ACPI and determine the
> limits for hotplug and PCI MMIO before kernel_randomize_memory(). On
> smaller systems that could yield some KASLR address bits. This needs
> additional investigation to determine if some limited ACPI table scanning
> can happen this early without an open coded solution like
> arch/x86/boot/compressed/acpi.c needs to deploy.
> 
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
> Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
> Cc: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Fixes: 7ffb791423c7 ("x86/kaslr: Reduce KASLR entropy on most x86 systems")
> Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> Reviewed-by: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
> Tested-by: Yasunori Goto <y-goto@fujitsu.com>
> Acked-by: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>

Applied to cxl/fixes
269031b15c1433ff39e30fa7ea3ab8f0be9d6ae2

DJ

> ---
>  drivers/pci/Kconfig |  6 ------
>  mm/Kconfig          | 12 ++++++++----
>  arch/x86/mm/kaslr.c | 10 +++++-----
>  3 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/Kconfig b/drivers/pci/Kconfig
> index f94f5d384362..47e466946bed 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/pci/Kconfig
> @@ -207,12 +207,6 @@ config PCI_P2PDMA
>  	  P2P DMA transactions must be between devices behind the same root
>  	  port.
>  
> -	  Enabling this option will reduce the entropy of x86 KASLR memory
> -	  regions. For example - on a 46 bit system, the entropy goes down
> -	  from 16 bits to 15 bits. The actual reduction in entropy depends
> -	  on the physical address bits, on processor features, kernel config
> -	  (5 level page table) and physical memory present on the system.
> -
>  	  If unsure, say N.
>  
>  config PCI_LABEL
> diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> index 0e26f4fc8717..d17ebcc1a029 100644
> --- a/mm/Kconfig
> +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> @@ -1128,10 +1128,14 @@ config ZONE_DEVICE
>  	  Device memory hotplug support allows for establishing pmem,
>  	  or other device driver discovered memory regions, in the
>  	  memmap. This allows pfn_to_page() lookups of otherwise
> -	  "device-physical" addresses which is needed for using a DAX
> -	  mapping in an O_DIRECT operation, among other things.
> -
> -	  If FS_DAX is enabled, then say Y.
> +	  "device-physical" addresses which is needed for DAX, PCI_P2PDMA, and
> +	  DEVICE_PRIVATE features among others.
> +
> +	  Enabling this option will reduce the entropy of x86 KASLR memory
> +	  regions. For example - on a 46 bit system, the entropy goes down
> +	  from 16 bits to 15 bits. The actual reduction in entropy depends
> +	  on the physical address bits, on processor features, kernel config
> +	  (5 level page table) and physical memory present on the system.
>  
>  #
>  # Helpers to mirror range of the CPU page tables of a process into device page
> diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/kaslr.c b/arch/x86/mm/kaslr.c
> index 3c306de52fd4..834641c6049a 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/mm/kaslr.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/mm/kaslr.c
> @@ -115,12 +115,12 @@ void __init kernel_randomize_memory(void)
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Adapt physical memory region size based on available memory,
> -	 * except when CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA is enabled. P2PDMA exposes the
> -	 * device BAR space assuming the direct map space is large enough
> -	 * for creating a ZONE_DEVICE mapping in the direct map corresponding
> -	 * to the physical BAR address.
> +	 * except when CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE is enabled. ZONE_DEVICE wants to map
> +	 * any physical address into the direct-map. KASLR wants to reliably
> +	 * steal some physical address bits. Those design choices are in direct
> +	 * conflict.
>  	 */
> -	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA) && (memory_tb < kaslr_regions[0].size_tb))
> +	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE) && (memory_tb < kaslr_regions[0].size_tb))
>  		kaslr_regions[0].size_tb = memory_tb;
>  
>  	/*



      reply	other threads:[~2026-01-06  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-08  2:32 Dan Williams
2025-11-08  2:39 ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-10 23:34   ` dan.j.williams
2025-11-11  1:57     ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-12 10:17     ` Yasunori Gotou (Fujitsu)
2025-11-09  6:51 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 23:39   ` dan.j.williams
2025-11-11  1:22   ` Balbir Singh
2025-12-01 17:39 ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-01 21:29   ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-06  1:11     ` Dave Jiang [this message]

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