From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
Cc: "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 14/21] mm/mmap: Avoid zeroing vma tree in mmap_region()
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:16:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <04f2a791-6b44-4743-b074-bda537cbc8e4@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b4dccf8dfbfb5a9d7c07a745c48a96164fbf19a.camel@web.de>
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 12:28:51PM +0200, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> Am Montag, dem 14.10.2024 um 10:46 +0100 schrieb Lorenzo Stoakes:
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 12:35:59AM +0200, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> > > I created a program which can trigger the bug on newer kernel (after the
> > > "Avoid zeroing vma tree in mmap_region()" patch and before the fix).
> > > My original goal was to trigger the bug on older kernels,
> > > but that does not work, yet.
> > >
> > > Bert Karwatzki
> >
> > Thanks, that's great!
> >
> > For older kernels the problem should still be present, the fundamental
> > thing that changed from the point of view of this bug is that merge won't
> > contribute to the number of VMAs being overwritten at once.
> >
> > To trigger prior to commit f8d112a4e657 ("mm/mmap: avoid zeroing vma tree
> > in mmap_region()") you would need to create a situation where the _clear_
> > triggers the bug, i.e. you must consistute all the VMAs that are being
> > overwritten by the store from existing VMAs you are overwriting with a
> > MAP_FIXED.
> >
> > So some tweaks should get you there...
> > >
>
> I don't think triggering the bug on a clear works, because a write of a %NULL
> that will cause a node to end with a %NULL becomes a spanning write into the
> next node:
>
> /*
> * mas_is_span_wr() - Check if the write needs to be treated as a write that
> * spans the node.
> * @mas: The maple state
> * @piv: The pivot value being written
> * @type: The maple node type
> * @entry: The data to write
> *
> * Spanning writes are writes that start in one node and end in another OR if
> * the write of a %NULL will cause the node to end with a %NULL.
> *
> * Return: True if this is a spanning write, false otherwise.
> */
> static bool mas_is_span_wr(struct ma_wr_state *wr_mas)
> {
>
>
> I think the could would trigger in this situation
>
> Node_0
> /
> /
> Node_1
> / \
> / \
> Node_2 Node_3
>
> but only if Node_3 contained only two ranges, one empty range and one normal
> range, and if the mmap into empty range of Node_3 would merge with the last
> range of Node_2 and the last range of Node_3. But I think the rebalancing of the
> tree will make it very hard if not impossible to create such a node.
>
>
> Bert Karwatzki
Hm well that would explain why we couldn't hit it so easy in the past then,
and is a good thing... :)
Still the bug is still a bug even if hard to hit from mm code and should
get backported (obviously you're suggesting otherwise, just to emphasise :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-16 11:16 UTC|newest]
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2024-10-13 22:35 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-14 9:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-16 10:28 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-16 11:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2024-10-16 14:13 ` Liam R. Howlett
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2024-10-04 9:35 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-04 9:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-04 14:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-04 14:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-04 14:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-04 14:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-04 22:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-05 0:56 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-05 6:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-05 8:57 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-05 11:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-04 8:51 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-04 8:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-03 17:07 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-03 17:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-03 19:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-04 8:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-03 13:09 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-03 13:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-03 10:51 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-03 11:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-03 10:41 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-03 10:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-03 8:59 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-03 9:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-03 9:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 22:58 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-03 7:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 22:57 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-03 8:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 21:58 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-02 21:48 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-02 21:41 Bert Karwatzki
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2024-10-02 11:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 2:34 Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 8:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 8:38 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 8:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 8:55 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 8:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 9:10 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 9:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 9:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 9:57 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 10:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 10:22 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 10:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 10:42 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 11:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 11:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-01 16:43 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-01 18:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 8:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 8:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 12:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 13:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 16:13 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-02 17:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 18:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 18:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 20:06 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-02 20:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 20:39 ` Bert Karwatzki
2024-10-02 20:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-02 21:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-08-30 4:00 [PATCH v8 00/21] Avoid MAP_FIXED gap exposure Liam R. Howlett
2024-08-30 4:00 ` [PATCH v8 14/21] mm/mmap: Avoid zeroing vma tree in mmap_region() Liam R. Howlett
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