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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	tkhai@ya.ru, hannes@cmpxchg.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	david@redhat.com, shy828301@gmail.com, sultan@kerneltoast.com,
	dave@stgolabs.net, penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp,
	paulmck@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] make slab shrink lockless
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 10:27:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04953598-accc-7eac-1960-94a4fed580fd@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y/5KuUymvxn+QhIz@dhcp22.suse.cz>



On 2023/3/1 02:40, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 27-02-23 17:08:30, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> [...]
>> The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test
>> script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads
>> benefit from your changes.
> 
> It's been quite some time ago (2018ish) when we have seen bug report
> where mount got stalled when racing with memory reclaim. This was
> nasty because the said mount was a part of login chain and users simply
> had to wait for a long time to get loged in in that particular
> deployment.
> 
> The mount was blocked on a shrinker registration and the reclaim was
> stalled in a slab shrinker IIRC. I do not remember all the details but
> the underlying problem was that a shrinker callback took a long time
> because there were too many objects to scan or it had to sync with other
> fs operation. I believe we ended up using Minchan's break out from slab
> shrinking if the shrinker semaphore was contended and that helped to
> some degree but there were still some corner cases where a single slab
> shrinker could take a noticeable amount of time.
> 
> In general using a "big" lock like shrinker_rwsem from the reclaim and
> potentially block many unrelated subsystems that just want to register
> or unregister shrinkers is a potential source of hard to predict
> problems. So this is a very welcome change.

Totally agree. :)

Thanks,
Qi


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-01  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-26 14:46 Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] mm: vmscan: add a map_nr_max field to shrinker_info Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:54   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] mm: vmscan: make global slab shrink lockless Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] mm: vmscan: make memcg " Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] mm: vmscan: add shrinker_srcu_generation Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] mm: shrinkers: make count and scan in shrinker debugfs lockless Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] mm: vmscan: hold write lock to reparent shrinker nr_deferred Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] mm: vmscan: remove shrinker_rwsem from synchronize_shrinkers() Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] mm: shrinkers: convert shrinker_rwsem to mutex Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 19:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] make slab shrink lockless Andrew Morton
2023-02-27 13:31   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-27 15:08     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-27 19:20       ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-02-27 19:32         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-27 19:47           ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-02-28 10:08         ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 10:04       ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 10:53         ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 18:40       ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-01  2:27         ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2023-02-27 19:02     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-28 10:11       ` Qi Zheng

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