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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/12] khugepaged: introduce khugepaged_scan_bitmap for mTHP support
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 09:03:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <048f7e1c-2ae8-41d9-a46a-964ca6253314@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13f8e557-da9d-4ccf-9372-6acdc865586a@redhat.com>



On 2025/5/20 18:26, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 20.05.25 12:09, Baolin Wang wrote:
>> Sorry for late reply.
>>
>> On 2025/5/17 14:47, Nico Pache wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 9:20 PM Baolin Wang
>>> <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2025/5/15 11:22, Nico Pache wrote:
>>>>> khugepaged scans anons PMD ranges for potential collapse to a 
>>>>> hugepage.
>>>>> To add mTHP support we use this scan to instead record chunks of 
>>>>> utilized
>>>>> sections of the PMD.
>>>>>
>>>>> khugepaged_scan_bitmap uses a stack struct to recursively scan a 
>>>>> bitmap
>>>>> that represents chunks of utilized regions. We can then determine what
>>>>> mTHP size fits best and in the following patch, we set this bitmap 
>>>>> while
>>>>> scanning the anon PMD. A minimum collapse order of 2 is used as 
>>>>> this is
>>>>> the lowest order supported by anon memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> max_ptes_none is used as a scale to determine how "full" an order must
>>>>> be before being considered for collapse.
>>>>>
>>>>> When attempting to collapse an order that has its order set to 
>>>>> "always"
>>>>> lets always collapse to that order in a greedy manner without
>>>>> considering the number of bits set.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> Sigh. You still haven't addressed or explained the issues I previously
>>>> raised [1], so I don't know how to review this patch again...
>>> Can you still reproduce this issue?
>>
>> Yes, I can still reproduce this issue with today's (5/20) mm-new branch.
>>
>> I've disabled PMD-sized THP in my system:
>> [root]# cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
>> always madvise [never]
>> [root]# cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-2048kB/enabled
>> always inherit madvise [never]
> 
> Thanks for the easy reproducer, Baolin! It's certainly something that 
> must be fixed.
> 
>>
>> And I tried calling madvise() with MADV_COLLAPSE for anonymous memory,
>> and I can still see it collapsing to a PMD-sized THP.
> 
> This almost sounds like it could be converted into an easy selftest.
> 
> Baolin, do you have other ideas for easy selftests? It might be good to 
> include some in the next version. >
> I can think of: enable only a single size, then MADV_COLLAPSE X times 
> and see if it worked. etc.

Yes. And some easy test cases I want to write are:

(1) Enable all mTHP size, tuning 'max_ptes_none' parameter to check if 
the suitable sized mTHP is being collapsed (including MADV_COLLAPSE and 
khugepaged).
(2) Enable only a single size, calling MADV_COLLAPSE madvise() or 
khugepaged to check if the suitable sized mTHP is being collapsed.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-21  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15  3:22 [PATCH v7 00/12] khugepaged: " Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 01/12] khugepaged: rename hpage_collapse_* to khugepaged_* Nico Pache
2025-05-16 17:30   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-29  6:48     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 02/12] introduce khugepaged_collapse_single_pmd to unify khugepaged and madvise_collapse Nico Pache
2025-05-15  5:50   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-16 11:59     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-16 17:12   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02  0:00     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 03/12] khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-05-16 17:14   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-29  6:52     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-23  6:55   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-28  6:57     ` Dev Jain
2025-05-29  4:00     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-30  3:02       ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 04/12] khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 05/12] khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 06/12] khugepaged: introduce khugepaged_scan_bitmap " Nico Pache
2025-05-16  3:20   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-17  6:47     ` Nico Pache
2025-05-18  3:04       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-05-20 10:09       ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-20 10:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21  1:03           ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2025-05-21 10:23         ` Nico Pache
2025-05-22  9:39           ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-28  9:26             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-28 14:04               ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-29  4:02                 ` Nico Pache
2025-05-29  8:27                   ` Baolin Wang
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 07/12] khugepaged: add " Nico Pache
2025-06-07  6:23   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-07 12:55     ` Nico Pache
2025-06-07 13:03     ` Nico Pache
2025-06-07 14:31       ` Dev Jain
2025-06-07 14:42         ` Dev Jain
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 08/12] khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 09/12] khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 10/12] khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 11/12] khugepaged: add per-order mTHP khugepaged stats Nico Pache
2025-05-15  3:22 ` [PATCH v7 12/12] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2025-05-15  4:40   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-07  6:44   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-07 12:57     ` Nico Pache
2025-06-07 14:34       ` Dev Jain
2025-06-08 19:50         ` Nico Pache
2025-06-09  3:06           ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09  5:26             ` Dev Jain
2025-06-09  6:39               ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-09  5:56             ` Nico Pache
2025-05-28 12:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: khugepaged: allow khugepaged to check all anonymous mTHP orders Baolin Wang
2025-05-28 12:31   ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: khugepaged: kick khugepaged for enabling none-PMD-sized mTHPs Baolin Wang
2025-05-28 12:39 ` [PATCH v7 00/12] khugepaged: mTHP support Baolin Wang
2025-05-29  3:52   ` Nico Pache
2025-06-16  3:51 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-16 15:51   ` Nico Pache
2025-06-16 16:35     ` Dev Jain

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