From: chenridong <chenridong@huawei.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <mhocko@suse.com>,
<hannes@cmpxchg.org>, <yosryahmed@google.com>,
<yuzhao@google.com>, <david@redhat.com>, <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<wangweiyang2@huawei.com>, <xieym_ict@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/1] mm/vmscan: move the written-back folios to the tail of LRU after shrinking
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:41:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <03c18a7b-24fa-4ee6-8682-63f1a81363e5@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4x0OrdhorQdz8PyLD84GOYVZJ7kLfGV_5yupLG_ZQ_B3w@mail.gmail.com>
On 2024/11/18 12:14, Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 5:03 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 09:16:58AM +0000, Chen Ridong wrote:
>>> 2. In shrink_page_list function, if folioN is THP(2M), it may be splited
>>> and added to swap cache folio by folio. After adding to swap cache,
>>> it will submit io to writeback folio to swap, which is asynchronous.
>>> When shrink_page_list is finished, the isolated folios list will be
>>> moved back to the head of inactive lru. The inactive lru may just look
>>> like this, with 512 filioes have been move to the head of inactive lru.
>>
>> I was hoping that we'd be able to stop splitting the folio when adding
>> to the swap cache. Ideally. we'd add the whole 2MB and write it back
>> as a single unit.
>
> This is already the case: adding to the swapcache doesn’t require splitting
> THPs, but failing to allocate 2MB of contiguous swap slots will.
>
>>
>> This is going to become much more important with memdescs. We'd have to
>> allocate 512 struct folios to do this, which would be about 10 4kB pages,
>> and if we're trying to swap out memory, we're probably low on memory.
>>
>> So I don't like this solution you have at all because it doesn't help us
>> get to the solution we're going to need in about a year's time.
>>
>
> Ridong might need to clarify why this splitting is occurring. If it’s due to the
> failure to allocate swap slots, we still need a solution to address it.
>
> Thanks
> Barry
shrink_folio_list
add_to_swap
folio_alloc_swap
get_swap_pages
scan_swap_map_slots
/*
* Swapfile is not block device or not using clusters so unable
* to allocate large entries.
*/
if (!(si->flags & SWP_BLKDEV) || !si->cluster_info)
return 0;
In my test, I use a file as swap, which is not 'SWP_BLKDEV'. So it
failed to get get_swap_pages.
I think this is a race issue between 'shrink_folio_list' executing and
writing back asynchronously. In my test, 512 folios(THP split) were
added to swap, only about 60 folios had not been written back when
'move_folios_to_lru' was invoked after 'shrink_folio_list'. What if
writing back faster? Maybe this will happen even 32 folios(without THP)
are in the 'folio_list' of shrink_folio_list's inputs.
Best regards,
Ridong
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-18 9:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-16 9:16 [RFC PATCH v2 0/1] " Chen Ridong
2024-11-16 9:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/1] " Chen Ridong
2024-11-17 3:26 ` Barry Song
2024-11-18 2:18 ` Chen Ridong
2024-11-18 4:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-18 4:14 ` Barry Song
2024-11-18 4:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-25 1:19 ` chenridong
2024-11-28 23:08 ` Barry Song
2024-11-29 2:25 ` chenridong
2024-11-29 3:07 ` Barry Song
2024-11-27 0:08 ` Chris Li
2024-11-18 9:41 ` chenridong [this message]
2024-11-18 9:55 ` Barry Song
2024-11-27 0:17 ` Chris Li
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